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Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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You can use any physical mouse/keyboard as input for the Vision Pro, including the ones built into your laptop.

I understand you cannot use bluetooth mice with it.

Seriously? Which other ones can you use then? Wired? That's totally not Apple.

That would be a really curious limitation.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Talking about the mindfulness and friction of opening apps, resizing windows and interacting with buttons is a terrible foreshadowing. The famed and fabled Apple UX magic seems to have possibly jumped the shark. I recall no such awkward friction when interacting with the Meta Quest menus. Each UI action requires zen-like eye focus? Someone should have vetoed that on the drawing board.

Apple seems to have made some important advances in passthrough, hardware and hand tracking occlusion. It seems they are probably 3-5 years behind Meta on UX and ecosystem. Meta also appears to be more advanced when it comes to gesture tracking and currently your hands can serve as both pointers and clickers quite well.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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> I'm currently typing this blog post in a floating window in the middle of snow-covered Yosemite. I am a floating body manifested into the transcendental Tim Cook matrix. I look into the sky and follow the soft clouds as they pass overhead. They slowly part, revealing Steve Jobs' smiling face watching over me from the heavens above. I am merely one more thing. god damn; this is the most dystopian shit i've read in a…

While I definitely understand and even partially agree with you, there's something partially elitist in the attitude of, "just go do it IRL."

This tech will eventually be available to most people on the planet in the same way smartphones are. But vacations to Yosemite likely won't be. And that's not counting doing stuff like standing on Mars or traveling to a fantasy world.

I have an AVP and it is cool as hell, but I enjoy taking it off when I'm done with the thing I'm doing. I think most people like IRL. I don't think having more options for experiences is a bad thing.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use any physical mouse/keyboard as input for the Vision Pro, including the ones built into your laptop.

I understand you cannot use bluetooth mice with it.

You can use whatever peripherals are connected to your Mac with Vision Pro if you’re using the AVP as the display for your Mac. The Mac’s cursor can leave the Mac window to interact with floating Vision Pro windows and such. I used my Logitech Bluetooth mouse just fine for that.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Talking about the mindfulness and friction of opening apps, resizing windows and interacting with buttons is a terrible foreshadowing. The famed and fabled Apple UX magic seems to have possibly jumped the shark. I recall no such awkward friction when interacting with the Meta Quest menus. Each UI action requires zen-like eye focus? Someone should have vetoed that on the drawing board. Apple seems to have made some im…

I have both headsets and AVP is way more intuitive when you get used to it. I think you're reading too much into this author's penchant for exaggeration.

The Quest 3 UX is still very bad in some places and it is very buggy still. So is the AVP. This is all still early days.

The last thing I'll say is that the Q3 hand tracking is absolutely terrible compared to the AVP. It's not even close.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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I cleaned the whole house today wearing my Apple Vision Pro. It’s a great dopamine delivery system; much easier way to have a YouTube video going while vacuuming than a phone propped up somewhere. Likewise in the laundry where there’s not enough space to put down a device. I’m not sure if it’s just the novelty halo effect that will dissipate, but it’s encouraging me to keep it past the 15 day return window.

(I’m an ADHD person and happy to have a gadget that’s helped me Do Things I Usually Avoid)

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand you cannot use bluetooth mice with it.

You can use whatever peripherals are connected to your Mac with Vision Pro if you’re using the AVP as the display for your Mac. The Mac’s cursor can leave the Mac window to interact with floating Vision Pro windows and such. I used my Logitech Bluetooth mouse just fine for that.

Yeah I assume this is going to require continuity/handoff, and those use iCloud for syncing state/keys, and iCloud is a privacy nightmare, so unfortunately that feature is probably off the table for me as all iCloud hostnames are blackholed on my macs. I’ll know more on Monday.

My statement was of course about the AVP; everyone knows you can use bluetooth mice on a mac.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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About the ADHD part: I don't know whether I have ADHD but I do lose focus quickly once I figure out how to solve a problem, before doing any implementation -- after all the implementation, however long it could take, is boring and uninteresting comparing to figuring out how to implement. So what if I get myself a Raspberry Pi 8GB and jumps into VSCode and VSCode only? Is it possible to make a VSCode "terminal" that o…

Well, a lot of people have talked about symlinking /sbin/init to /usr/bin/emacs...

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use any physical mouse/keyboard as input for the Vision Pro, including the ones built into your laptop.

I understand you cannot use bluetooth mice with it.

I think the WSJ video review showed it being used with a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. It’s definitely possible.

The pointer comes up like when you use a trackpad or mouse with the iPad.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Talking about the mindfulness and friction of opening apps, resizing windows and interacting with buttons is a terrible foreshadowing. The famed and fabled Apple UX magic seems to have possibly jumped the shark. I recall no such awkward friction when interacting with the Meta Quest menus. Each UI action requires zen-like eye focus? Someone should have vetoed that on the drawing board. Apple seems to have made some im…

I think a lot of the complaints around the eye tracking stuff is skill issue — it’s brand new device, people have very few hours of experience. I picked mine like 6 hours ago, and my first session I struggled with targeting, but I spent another couple hours with it pretty much just moving windows around and cleaning the house, and now it’s feeling much more precise. Practice.
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