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Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by bemusedthrow75 »

l33tman wrote: post #73
dataangel wrote: post #33

Why every time a new technology comes out with crappy obvious limitations does somebody feel compelled to write a blog post trying to justify it as actually good? This is just somebody trying to talk themselves into keeping their $3,500 toy

I find at least a little bit funny that it seems that completely new people now "discover" what you can do with VR, as if this hasn't been a thing for almost 10 years and certainly for the last 5 years (although with slightly lower resolution than with the AVP). But then again, it helps the entire industry that it apparently has reached a different audience this time who gets hyped again. I just wish there could be n…

Oh, we are definitely in that punditry window where journalists write about an Apple product as if literally none of the precursor products matter at all, clambering over all the weaknesses and shortfalls as if they were the prone bodies of regular tech journalists who — perhaps distracted by their need for a long or wider perspective - fell on the ground on the way to be one of Cupertino’s chosen few.

Also the window where wealthy early adopters confuse their ability to spend ridiculous money on a beta product with actual possession of insight or wisdom; this is the Z-tier of access journalism.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by zmmmmm »

gentleman11 wrote: post #88
zmmmmm wrote: post #10

I routinely use Quest 3 with Immersed to do "focused" work by switching to specific environments that I associate with that. I can also co-work in a room of 5 - 10 other people who are also doing that which generates a little bit of impetus to focus as well. I think if this becomes the only reason to keep the device, for sure explore some other options like Quest 3 and see if it's sufficient. It does a lot more thing…

There are some privacy issues with meta that make me shy about trying their vr ecosystem again. I met a Facebook recruiter once, maybe 3-4 years ago, who was bragging about how his team was collecting data about the interiors and uses of private indoor spaces. If I'm in a charitable mood, I’ll take that to mean “contents of stores and restaurants,” but I’m not always so optimistic

it's a future risk I think but not a current one in any way shape or form in the Quest platform. They meticulously ask permission for every app that uses eye / camera / spatial data, even their own. I would say in some sense you are safer on Meta's platforms for the time being because Zuckerberg is going to be so shy of igniting that perception whereas Apple as more room to take those liberties. But I agree, in the longer term it's something to think about.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by outcoldman »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #85
outcoldman wrote: post #82

With VisionPro I feel again like MBP M1 just came out. You definitely a very cool technology in front of you, but at the same time, you also see how many things aren't ready, and you always need to figure out hoops and various workarounds to make it to work. But with the time M1/M2/M3 improved soo much. I am keeping my Vision Pro not for the experience that we got right now (well, not only) but also for the one that…

Why not wait until it is useful before purchasing it? I know plenty of people who bought the Apple Silicon Macs too early, and their productivity dropped because too many things didn't work.

It gives me joy to try things, so don't see why not.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by lawrenceyan »

mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #72
lawrenceyan wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried meditation? I genuinely am asking.

Not the OP, but I also have catastrophic ADHD as they so eloquently put it. I've tried several techniques, that have had some minor initial success, but I just get bored and stop doing it. Which is also why I never became a better than beginner guitar player, properly filled out my opening repertoire in chess, finished almost any project I started, or did regular exercise. I just can't get myself to do boring repetit…

Part of the point of meditation in its early stages is training focus/concentration. If you feel bored that’s a good thing!

It means you’re giving your brain a good workout basically, and it’s improving.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by lawrenceyan »

austin-cheney wrote: post #57
lawrenceyan wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried meditation? I genuinely am asking.

We have, but we didn’t try enough types of medication to find an ideal fit. I suspect the right medication would be helpful. The more extreme the ADHD the higher the concentration of medication is required to achieve normal functioning which means high side effects. To understand the complexity of brain medication requires an understanding of the problem. For ADHD the problem is both dopamine and low serotonin. Dopam…

I won’t tell you not to use medication. Most of the world drinks caffeine everyday.

Maybe it truly is necessary for some people. But I would really caution its usage. It’s the same as putting a hammer and slamming it against the person’s brain. It’s also temporary and goes away the moment the drug disappears.

Meditation has the benefit of bringing permanent positive changes. But more importantly it acts in a way that recognizes the incredible complexity that our brains consist of.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by nunez »

> I'm currently typing this blog post in a floating window in the middle of snow-covered Yosemite. I am a floating body manifested into the transcendental Tim Cook matrix. I look into the sky and follow the soft clouds as they pass overhead. They slowly part, revealing Steve Jobs' smiling face watching over me from the heavens above. I am merely one more thing.

god damn; this is the most dystopian shit i've read in a while.

"real" outside isn't good enough to work in, so i'll pay $3500 to work in a fake outside in my own house and wear that headset while i'm in real outside to tailor this outside to my preferences.

interpreted another way: "real" outside is nice, but everything costs more money than i want to spend, so i'll spend $3500 once (or $1500 to buy the 1G headset) to create infinite "outsides" that i don't have to spend more money on

like, are we actually okay with this???

this might be me showing my age (late 30s) but i'm actually scared of this technology becoming mainstream and destroying whatever semblance of society we have left.

exmaple: why should people go to bars when they can just strap on a vision pro and put themselves in a bar that's perfect for them while drinking their own supply in their own home?

if that takes off, then anyone who actually likes going to real bars (me, for ex.) are basically forced into the virtual bars since real bars as a whole won't be economically viable anymore.

extended out further, walkable cities won't be necessary since everyone will be interacting through these kinds of headsets in their home, self-driving cars will be the only kinds of cars that are legal to drive, and most businesses would have moved into the metaverse since that's where the money is

i'm basically afraid of Ready Player One becoming real

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by garbagewoman »

nunez wrote: post #96

> I'm currently typing this blog post in a floating window in the middle of snow-covered Yosemite. I am a floating body manifested into the transcendental Tim Cook matrix. I look into the sky and follow the soft clouds as they pass overhead. They slowly part, revealing Steve Jobs' smiling face watching over me from the heavens above. I am merely one more thing. god damn; this is the most dystopian shit i've read in a…

I think the writer might have been exaggerating for comic effect. It’s a literary technique

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by nunez »

garbagewoman wrote: post #97
nunez wrote: post #96

> I'm currently typing this blog post in a floating window in the middle of snow-covered Yosemite. I am a floating body manifested into the transcendental Tim Cook matrix. I look into the sky and follow the soft clouds as they pass overhead. They slowly part, revealing Steve Jobs' smiling face watching over me from the heavens above. I am merely one more thing. god damn; this is the most dystopian shit i've read in a…

I think the writer might have been exaggerating for comic effect. It’s a literary technique

i know, but some people are actually doing this with their AVPs (less Tim Apple smiling on them in approval for buying more Apple kit)

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by nunez »

dataangel wrote: post #33

Why every time a new technology comes out with crappy obvious limitations does somebody feel compelled to write a blog post trying to justify it as actually good? This is just somebody trying to talk themselves into keeping their $3,500 toy

This happened tons with the first Apple Watch back in 2016.

This was basically completely new product category for many, many people. Yes, the Pebble existed, but the Pebble was niche and ultra niche. (I had one; loved the original and the Time).

The first Watch was crazy limited compared to today's variants, but the punditry was unceasing. Especially since you had people debating whether they should spend $10k on basically a flex.

Re: Apple Vision Pro and ADHD

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Post by wkat4242 »

nunez wrote: post #96

> I'm currently typing this blog post in a floating window in the middle of snow-covered Yosemite. I am a floating body manifested into the transcendental Tim Cook matrix. I look into the sky and follow the soft clouds as they pass overhead. They slowly part, revealing Steve Jobs' smiling face watching over me from the heavens above. I am merely one more thing. god damn; this is the most dystopian shit i've read in a…

Nah. People will still go to bars. We couldn't wait to be done with the COVID restrictions and I'm still making up for all the lost time, long nights where I roll onto the street at 6am when the last club closes lol.

Also don't forget a motive is to meet people and hook up. That won't be as good virtually as in real life for a long time.

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