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Re: Republicans in Congress try to kill FCC's broadband discrimination rules

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Post by worksonmine »

frob wrote: post #23
worksonmine wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are politicians agitating against white people in the US. Doesn't get more systemic than that. Let's not even get into the think tanks, or the media explaining how whites becoming a minority is a good thing. And all this is okay, in the name of diversity. It's crazy, racism is racism and this rhetoric is only antagonizing. Nothing good will come of it. We have similar issues in my country but not to the extent…

Could you please give an example of a major politician agitating against white people? To be specific, I do not mean someone pointing out that our system has been built to privlidge white people at the behest of white people, but a politician specifically agitating against white people. Because I can find endless pages of the head of the Republican party agitating against Mexicans (they're sending rapists), Latinos,…

Biden for one:

> An unrelenting stream of immigration, nonstop, nonstop. Folks like me who were Caucasian, of European descent for the first time in 2017 will be in an absolute minority in the United States of America, absolute minority. Fewer than 50 percent of the people in America from then and on will be White European stock. That's not a bad thing. That's a source of our strength.

And that's a very innocent one, but terrifying nonetheless. Imagine the same wording but about how a reduction in blacks would be a strength, all hell would break lose.

Re: Republicans in Congress try to kill FCC's broadband discrimination rules

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Post by jqpabc123 »

cscurmudgeon wrote: post #29
jqpabc123 wrote: post #26

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Do you think the Texas grid is not regulated? It is regulated to make long term reliability and capacity planning economically unviable. California has more outages than Texas. Mainly due to wild fires which are beyond anyone's control. The outages in Texas are mostly the direct result of political ideology and incompetence.

> The outages in Texas are mostly the direct result of political ideology and incompetence Do you have any metric that validates what you say? Becuase, a reasonable person can calmly make the opposite argument. You can protect the grid against wildfires. OTOH, California's utilities also cause wildfires due to incompetence [1]. Texas had a record-low winter storm that caused a major outage. Also, California's electri…

Texas had a record-low winter storm that caused a major outage.

Followed by record high summer heat that caused outages too. Texas power grid operates on the verge of collapse --- because of bassackwards "free market" ideology. You don't have to take my word for it, several studies have said the same.

Also, California's electricity is more than twice as costly as that of Texas.

Texas uses tax payer money to subsidize their grid's inadequacy. They pay selected large enterprises to shutdown and stop consuming when their grid starts to fail.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bitcoin-mining-cryptocurrency-r...

This is the prevailing "free market" ideology in Texas --- instead of making it economically viable for providers to add more capacity.

Re: Republicans in Congress try to kill FCC's broadband discrimination rules

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Post by klyrs »

worksonmine wrote: post #31
frob wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you please give an example of a major politician agitating against white people? To be specific, I do not mean someone pointing out that our system has been built to privlidge white people at the behest of white people, but a politician specifically agitating against white people. Because I can find endless pages of the head of the Republican party agitating against Mexicans (they're sending rapists), Latinos,…

Biden for one: > An unrelenting stream of immigration, nonstop, nonstop. Folks like me who were Caucasian, of European descent for the first time in 2017 will be in an absolute minority in the United States of America, absolute minority. Fewer than 50 percent of the people in America from then and on will be White European stock. That's not a bad thing. That's a source of our strength. And that's a very innocent one,…

Failing to panic about the Great Replacement is racism now? Cuuuute.

Re: Republicans in Congress try to kill FCC's broadband discrimination rules

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Post by vacuity »

worksonmine wrote: post #31
frob wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you please give an example of a major politician agitating against white people? To be specific, I do not mean someone pointing out that our system has been built to privlidge white people at the behest of white people, but a politician specifically agitating against white people. Because I can find endless pages of the head of the Republican party agitating against Mexicans (they're sending rapists), Latinos,…

Biden for one: > An unrelenting stream of immigration, nonstop, nonstop. Folks like me who were Caucasian, of European descent for the first time in 2017 will be in an absolute minority in the United States of America, absolute minority. Fewer than 50 percent of the people in America from then and on will be White European stock. That's not a bad thing. That's a source of our strength. And that's a very innocent one,…

It doesn't seem to me that Biden is calling for culling of white people or whatever. The US has long been regarded as a melting pot of cultures, and Biden just seems quite enthusiastic that there'll be more of that. White people have, as a group, (not every single white person, of course) been overrepresented in some ways. It would be alarming if people talked about a reduction in the black population because they've historically been oppressed and disadvantaged, and they don't make a huge portion of the population.

Re: Republicans in Congress try to kill FCC's broadband discrimination rules

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Post by vacuity »

leereeves wrote: post #24
spookybones wrote: post #20

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Doesn’t preventing discrimination based on income level cover that?

Not always. For example, not when rural areas are excluded. Also not if, for example, an ISP decides to expand to a minority area instead of a white area because of DEI policies. In theory that should also be forbidden by the rule against racial discrimination, but in practice it's often not enforced that way.

Would that people could be trusted to not discriminate in any way...maybe some subconscious personal bias, but then surely a group could even out the biases.

Re: Republicans in Congress try to kill FCC's broadband discrimination rules

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Post by ThisIsMyAltAcct »

HeatrayEnjoyer wrote: post #15
Dig1t wrote: post #12

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Racism against white people exists, there’s nothing “reverse” about it. You can discriminate and exclude based on any skin color. Competition is what we need, look at cities where Google fiber is available, internet for everyone is faster and cheaper than anywhere in the country and there are of course no data caps in those cities. It’s why internet is way better in Kansas City than Silicon Valley. Kansas City has ac…

Systemic racism does not exist against whites in the US.

Sure it does: college admissions and air traffic controller hiring are two recent examples.

https://www.tracingwoodgrains.com/p/the-faas-hiring-scandal-...

Re: Republicans in Congress try to kill FCC's broadband discrimination rules

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Post by blowsand »

jqpabc123 wrote: post #26
cscurmudgeon wrote: post #19

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Do you think the Texas grid is not regulated? California has more outages than Texas. There is a difference between regulation and subsidies. Texas has much cheaper electricy than California: https://quickelectricity.com/texas-and-california-energy-sid... > Texas is the top producer of renewable electricity in the US, followed by California. Both states are rich in renewable sources and actively working to expand the…

Do you think the Texas grid is not regulated? It is regulated to make long term reliability and capacity planning economically unviable. California has more outages than Texas. Mainly due to wild fires which are beyond anyone's control. The outages in Texas are mostly the direct result of political ideology and incompetence.

That’s false. PG&E is the largest provider in the state and their outages are caused by poor quality controls, lack of line and pole maintenance, vegetation overgrowth, poor resilience to weather conditions, and carelessness, primarily. This -results- in fires at times, and they are in constant litigation. They have a dysfunctional-by-design relation with the cpuc.

Re: Republicans in Congress try to kill FCC's broadband discrimination rules

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Post by mbfg »

worksonmine wrote: post #31
frob wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you please give an example of a major politician agitating against white people? To be specific, I do not mean someone pointing out that our system has been built to privlidge white people at the behest of white people, but a politician specifically agitating against white people. Because I can find endless pages of the head of the Republican party agitating against Mexicans (they're sending rapists), Latinos,…

Biden for one: > An unrelenting stream of immigration, nonstop, nonstop. Folks like me who were Caucasian, of European descent for the first time in 2017 will be in an absolute minority in the United States of America, absolute minority. Fewer than 50 percent of the people in America from then and on will be White European stock. That's not a bad thing. That's a source of our strength. And that's a very innocent one,…

I missed the part in the constitution where it said America should be made up of mostly whites. If you want more whites in america, i guess you should have more children.

Re: Republicans in Congress try to kill FCC's broadband discrimination rules

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Post by text0404 »

leereeves wrote: post #28
klyrs wrote: post #25

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Which should we do? Disallow discrimination against white people on the basis of race? Or dismiss discussion of such discrimination as "specious bullshit flogging the reverse racism trope"? I ask because those are diametrically opposed positions, and your second sentence illustrates why the first sometimes doesn't happen.

what are you talking about? this is about discriminating based on race, which includes the white race. your implicit assumption here is that anti-discrimination measures for minorities is discriminatory against white people. which is, uh, not a great take.

Re: Republicans in Congress try to kill FCC's broadband discrimination rules

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Post by memefrog »

klyrs wrote: post #33
worksonmine wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Biden for one: > An unrelenting stream of immigration, nonstop, nonstop. Folks like me who were Caucasian, of European descent for the first time in 2017 will be in an absolute minority in the United States of America, absolute minority. Fewer than 50 percent of the people in America from then and on will be White European stock. That's not a bad thing. That's a source of our strength. And that's a very innocent one,…

Failing to panic about the Great Replacement is racism now? Cuuuute.

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