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I really fail to understand how a company can consciously guide itself to degrade so badly. Like these were actual decisions of meetings and the results of a ton of work of teams to implement. And it destroyed the site. Product of too much VC, probably.

Product of middle managers, the cause of nearly all corporate problems.

Middle managers pursue the CEO's vision. They aren't steering the ship.

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Quora is, I think, part of the reason that OpenAI has a big lead over their rivals. Quora has, specifically for training language models, very high-signal data, when compared to Reddit, twitter, gmail, and Meta’s platforms. And OpenAI is afaik, the only AI lab with a license to Quora’s data.

Quora has long been a world leader of SEO and dark UX patterns — it was never as valuable to users as its Google ranking would indicate — so it’s hard to mourn its demise. But yes, it does stink to see the quality of information going down while the quantity grows at an ever-increasing exponential rate.

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I’m pretty sure this is the result of a heavy A/B testing culture. Every single idea was probably increasing an important KPI. The page in it’s entirety got destroyed over time.

A/B tests are likely involved because no human would suggest those changes in earnest, but what metric could those tests have improved!? Either it’s a series of unchallenged false positives, or there’s a lot about web interface that neither I nor they understand, but I would challenge the idea that is the result of a well-informed A/B testing culture. It’s the output of a thousand monkeys running a thousand tests a d…

ad views, and paid subdcriptions, and retention of subscribers.

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Could you point to some examples of partisan entries?

As one example, I wrote this comment a few weeks ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38974614 But to expand a bit, for example I'm annoyed at many of the entries calling their subject "conspiracy theory/ theorist". Not that conspiracy theories and their believers don't exist, but at this point it has become a highly pejorative and judgemental term to frame ideas and narratives that need to be stigmatized rather…

So climate change, is it surprising the thread went bonkers? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_J._Crockford

What ever I answer in this case the easiest reaction will be; for you will be to judge me and lump me together with what you cal activists, and for those activists it will me easiest to put me in the same conspiracy theorist group as you. This is not a problem with Wikipedia, this is a human problem.

While I also think that article is abysmal, it does give context what to expect from people posting stuff by her. The biggest problem with your complaint is that you are not linking to an alternative, just do a fast draft on Wikipedia remove everything that you feel is not relevant and link that. Sure it will be reverted but that is probably because you first draft will not be a good article, those are evidently very hard to write when people think so differently about something.

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When I visit Quora, mainly through it being a result for something I've searched for on Google, I can never quite understand what's the question, the answer, and what's an answer to something completely different. So I've never felt compelled to stay or join myself. Also, for a while I just hit a login wall, which of course makes you not click a link there the next time.

I’ve never used Quora because of this, and also it has always looked like a scam website.

You know those pages you find on google that are just SO/Wikipedia articles copied? That’s what Quora looks like lol

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When I visit Quora, mainly through it being a result for something I've searched for on Google, I can never quite understand what's the question, the answer, and what's an answer to something completely different. So I've never felt compelled to stay or join myself. Also, for a while I just hit a login wall, which of course makes you not click a link there the next time.

Reddit is the same way if you don't go to old.reddit.com. You see that there are N comments, but you only get to read the first few, and suddenly you're looking at an entirely different post. Every time I accidentally go there I get confused by it. There is no chance anybody asked for this, it's so stupid it had to come out of perversely chasing some metric.

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How about Wikimedia?

Wikimedia is a non-profit that operates like a for-profit when the yearly round of donations comes around. They literally hoard money[0]. I will get downvoted for this, but it's my perception. -- [0]: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/wikipedia-millions-bank-beg/

> the yearly round of donations comes around

The what? I cannot visit Wikipedia without seeing a donate bar, even when I close it every time. "Year-round" maybe.

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A lot of Wikipedia entries have become extremely partisan, and kept that way by moderators who are deeply invested in certain narratives. I find it very disappointing that no countermeasures have been taken- afaik Wikipedia still works exactly like 20 years ago, a barebone wiki governed by a lot of obscure, complex and unstructured politics. Granted, it might be the best possible way for an open-source encyclopedia t…

Could you point to some examples of partisan entries?

Essentially any issue that relates to politics or geopolitics tends to have a strong left wing bias, as if it is written from the perspective of the left wing against the right wing.

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It's not completely unrelated I think. It's hard to me to see how a site with a vision like Quora (had) can continue existing for long after they start ignoring accessibility issues. Sounds like I should be looking for a Stack Overflow alternative too. (I'm suspecting that this might be related to the recent issue of better accessibility also making it easier to abuse for neural network based abusers, and it certainl…

Accessibility is important. But it doesn’t relate to success of a company. Besides, modern screen readers and even accessibility affordances on modern cell phones - at least iPhones - don’t struggle or care whether the site uses JavaScript

This is not what users seem to say ?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39211037

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