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Re: Show HN: The classic Minesweeper on an irregular grid

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I tried it out and downloaded the iOS version, but unfortunately it doesn’t save between sessions. That sucks, especially for a game in the puzzle genre.

Also, the ads offset the display but the taps still go to the original positions. Hope these can be fixed!

Re: Show HN: The classic Minesweeper on an irregular grid

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Neat... but I'm missing the left+right click, in the Windows Minesweeper, say you have a square with 4, and you've marked 4 squares around it as bombs, you can left+right click on the 4-square and uncover all the unmarked squares around it, instead of going one by one. Also "undo" is cool, but "lose 60s" seems backwards, considering one would get 60 seconds added to one's time.

Middle click works great for me, just like the ol' Windows 3.1 days.

> Middle click works great for me, just like the ol' Windows 3.1 days.

Two points:

- In Windows 3.1, Minesweeper had the convention of left+right clicking to uncover every non-flagged square around a number that was full.

- At that time, three-button mice were not so common; the mouse to my Windows 3.1 machine had only two buttons.

Middle click might have worked then, but it was not the primary way to get the effect.

Re: Show HN: The classic Minesweeper on an irregular grid

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post #2

Neat... but I'm missing the left+right click, in the Windows Minesweeper, say you have a square with 4, and you've marked 4 squares around it as bombs, you can left+right click on the 4-square and uncover all the unmarked squares around it, instead of going one by one. Also "undo" is cool, but "lose 60s" seems backwards, considering one would get 60 seconds added to one's time.

Thanks a lot for trying it and the feedback. As a sibling comment said, left+right click should work (as well as middle click). Which OS/browser are you using? I like to fix this. And you're right for "lose 60s", It's not the ideal wording. I was thinking it in terms of the less time you end up with, the better your score is. But "gain 60s" wouldn't work either. I'll have a think, but curious to hear if anyone has su…

One "challenge mode" (entirely self-directed) for Minesweeper was to complete the board without flagging any mines. (Once you've revealed every non-mine space, all the mines get flagged automatically and you win.)

Disabling left+right click brings us a lot closer to that mode. Maybe you could formalize it and call it an option?

A much bigger problem with right click (and left+right click) is that it's bringing up the browser context menu. That shouldn't happen.

If we're trying to be authentic to original Minesweeper, I see that you've implemented the sunglasses face that appears once you've won the game. The original also uses an ":o" face (circular mouth) when revealing a hidden square. Maybe U+1F62E?

Re: Show HN: The classic Minesweeper on an irregular grid

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sub 0.5 second is world record for normal beginner minesweeper. So, could be, yea.

interesting, I wasn't aware of that. Is there an official list?

Yea somewhere, I forget exactly

I played a bunch of minesweeper earlier and looked at the records, and still don't get how it's possible lol

Re: Show HN: The classic Minesweeper on an irregular grid

#115
post #45

Looking at the high scores, is that "." a decimal separator? Are those scores for the beginner difficulty "one and a half seconds"?

Yes, you're correct, it's the decimal separator. I remember now that this is not international. I believe the comma is used in the US? Having grown up in France, I'm used to the dot. And that score is indeed suspicious, although there are some protections to prevent cheating. Someone would have to be quite motivated to go around them. But it might be possible, as you don't need to flag all the mines in order to win,…

> In any case, I'll reconsider this, and may force all mines to be flagged in order to win, that might be safer.

That would make it less fun though, because an interesting variant is when you play without using flags.

Re: Show HN: The classic Minesweeper on an irregular grid

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post #57

This is fun. I was playing classic minesweeper the other day and remarked on how I was basically playing on autopilot, I've internalized all the logic and playing is just muscle memory now. But playing this version, my intuition is all wrong! I lost my first 2 games, and now I'm going to have to force myself to slow down and think through things more carefully, rather than trying to rely on my now-incorrect intuition…

You might enjoy Bombe (on Steam) it’s all about Minesweeper automation and it gets to absurd levels.

Re: Show HN: The classic Minesweeper on an irregular grid

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post #88

Can you explain the “Data Tracked and Linked to You” in the App Store? The game looks fun but I’m hoping to see something a little more privacy friendly, that isn’t collecting and selling my data. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/minesweeper-twist/id6473121693

It's only because I've added admob on the iOS and android versions. I personally don't collect data, but admob does. And when using those apps, you'll see a banner at the top, and a reward video if you press undo.

The steam version will be ad free, but there isn't a iOS/android paid and ad-free version yet. I'm considering it, though.

But I'm also looking for alternative ad providers, that would allow displaying ads while being privacy friendly. For instance, banners that redirect to a board game shop when clicked, and that track absolutely nothing except visits to their site, would be ideal. Surely those should exist, but I haven't found them yet.

If anybody has recommendation, I'd love to hear, I'm learning about this space at the moment.

Re: Show HN: The classic Minesweeper on an irregular grid

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post #88

Can you explain the “Data Tracked and Linked to You” in the App Store? The game looks fun but I’m hoping to see something a little more privacy friendly, that isn’t collecting and selling my data. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/minesweeper-twist/id6473121693

Id happily pay a couple bucks to support the creators before Id download an app with those settings.

That's great to hear, thank you. I'm considering releasing a paid ad-free version.

Re: Show HN: The classic Minesweeper on an irregular grid

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post #86
post #2

Neat... but I'm missing the left+right click, in the Windows Minesweeper, say you have a square with 4, and you've marked 4 squares around it as bombs, you can left+right click on the 4-square and uncover all the unmarked squares around it, instead of going one by one. Also "undo" is cool, but "lose 60s" seems backwards, considering one would get 60 seconds added to one's time.

For touchpads that don't have a real Right mouse button, you can't Left+Right click at the same time. Windows Minesweeper adds Double click as an alternative way to trigger Clear Around.

ok, that's great info thank you. I should be able to fix that in the coming days.

Re: Show HN: The classic Minesweeper on an irregular grid

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post #99
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks a lot for trying it and the feedback. As a sibling comment said, left+right click should work (as well as middle click). Which OS/browser are you using? I like to fix this. And you're right for "lose 60s", It's not the ideal wording. I was thinking it in terms of the less time you end up with, the better your score is. But "gain 60s" wouldn't work either. I'll have a think, but curious to hear if anyone has su…

Re wording: perhaps "costs 60s" might be sufficiently unambiguous?

thank you for your suggestion. I went with the "60s penalty" suggestion in the end.
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