Live data from Hacker News

Real estate giant China Evergrande will be liquidated

nytimes.com

361–364 of 364 posts

Re: Real estate giant China Evergrande will be liquidated

#361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> China is still urbanizing rapidly. Many things wrong with that statement. There is a reverse migration from cities back to countryside, since the wages in the city have fallen, jobs have disappeared, rent is still expensive, and it's harder to justify living in the city when you can only save a few hundred dollars a year from a job. Thus, empty retail stores in major tier 1 cities. Empty apartments in Dongguan and…

Empty retail stores in major tier 1 cities wasn't unusual even in good times. Nor were empty apartments in tier 1/2/3 cities as well as small crowds at malls. Actually, I would be hard pressed to use these signs as good or bad news, since they are so normal.

you should check this video out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yizM5O5HoMg

Wangfujing and Sanlitun, which used to be one of the bustling streets in Beijing, now empty

Re: Real estate giant China Evergrande will be liquidated

#362

A couple of things to note: 1.) Why did it take Evergrande 3 years to liquidate? In western countries, liquidation happens in a few months. One should note that Evergrande did not get that big by itself; obviously it had the support of CCP elites to secure huge bank loans. Therefore, when it went bankrupt, the delay was to allow these elites to pull money/liquidable assets out of Evergrande. Thus after 3 years, Everg…

I have to disagree with Haidilao comment, which I have visited several times in different cities, it is packed with people, when people queuing outside, and I don't see the price is cheaper than previous year.

Maybe when prices have dropped if they are converted into dollars. I am not sure should we use dollars to measure everything to should I use Yuan for China.

Re: Real estate giant China Evergrande will be liquidated

#363
post #358

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two peaks on a downward trend are still a downward trend. That trend is more obvious if you look at population-corrected rates. https://www.statista.com/statistics/281416/birth-rate-in-the... 73mil/yr is the world number. https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-world...

The peak in the 60s occurs a while after the pill was made available in the UK and begins to trend downward before it was made more easily accessible. Contraceptive measures are not an explanation in and of themselves. They provide no information regarding the "why". I'd argue that the reduction is more specifically reflective of people's willingness to have children in times of economic hardship or declining living…

The pill was not readily available (absent a reason pregnancy may be harmful to the mother) in the UK until 1967, and not to unmarried women until 1974.
Post reply on HN