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Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by gigi207 » Thu, Feb 01, 2024, 2:52 PM UTC

danielspace23 wrote: post #32

andsoitis wrote: post #14

It looks like the individuals were trolling him ("don't share video online that shows us in the picture...") or just trying to pick a fight. Unfortunately, these days you have to assume that someone is taking video or photos in public space and it might mean you end up online without your permission. In very rare cases such a video might go viral which then can draw attention to yourself.

Why would they be trolling him? They're asking for the basic courtesy of not having their faces shown online, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me. It seems like the pianist is the one who wanted to pick a fight: instead of getting the cameraperson to point away from them and explaining the situation politely, he went on a rant on how they're not in "communist" China, and it's a free country. In general, the whole appr…

In the beginning, as you reference, Brendan Kavanaugh was talking with a friend of his who is producing video with a group of Japanese people (I think they were news people). There was some confusion about whether the red-scarf group was Japanese or Chinese initially, due to the fact Brendan had just been talking about the Japanese group. He was corrected, all was fine, he was greeted and shook hands with one of the Chinese women, and then a Chinese man played the piano (only one piece - and NOTE they never asked if they could use the piano for a longer time to film their piece for "Chinese TV".) The Chinese (several of whom were living in the UK/or are a British citizen) did try to explain they owned the rights to their own images, and could he delete/not film them? Brendan asked a lot of questions for clarification - and I felt he was purposely being dense - didn't give an inch. And that was his right. **By the way, Brendan did not rant. He asked. The Shouty Guy knew he couldn't win so he went to Plan B - His tactics: to make a scene, shout, intimidate, make false accusations, play the victim, etc. It still isn't clear if the primary woman saying loudly, "Don't shoot! Don't shoot him!" meant there was a weapon or if she meant camera/shoot.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by peterfirefly » Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 8:27 PM UTC

foverzar wrote: post #88

g-b-r wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well it's really hard to establish bigger dickness, although the Chinese was very polite the rest of the time, making up an assault case is pretty dicky (and probably criminal). I don't know about the racism though, it's possible but he might simply not like the Chinese government and political system (and assume that waving a Chinese flag means supporting it, which was probably the case).

> making up an assault case is pretty dicky (and probably criminal). The pianist actually did try to grab that woman, look at the video. I can't even say if the asian guy overreacted because I can't imagine myself being in the same conversation and not busting the pianist's nose or balls - and that's what would have probably happened if the pianist gave the same attitude towards a random white British girl off camera…

You are exactly making China look good with your "help".

> He was calling them "Japanese"

Due to a misunderstanding. He had just talked with another guy who was expecting a Japanese crew to show up so they could do some filming. He thought the Chinese people were the Japanese crew.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by nailer » Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 9:38 PM UTC

neom wrote: post #7

jacknews wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps it's a kindness. The title otherwise would be 'patriotic Chinese people threaten' ...

They didn't threaten him at all? They (wrongfully) asked him forcefully to stop filming.

They did make up a sexual assault.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by lobocinza » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 2:57 AM UTC

cassianoleal wrote: post #5

The title of the video is "Police Called To Stop Filming During Piano Livestream". There are no indications that the people who (very wrongfully) approached them are members of the CCP. They may well be but there's nothing in the video supporting that.

There are. Apparently one woman from their group (Christina Lee), which appears in the video in the background, was designated by the MI5 as an agent of influence of the CCP. That is one of the possible explanations for their demands to have the video to be removed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62179004

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by lobocinza » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 3:04 AM UTC

g-b-r wrote: post #75

foverzar wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Challenge of who is a bigger dick: a guy who is openly racist, makes fun of other people language skills and makes it a principle to act like a dick vs the guy who got hysterically overprotective - a challenge we truly deserve. I don't personally believe in the "bigger dick" narrative when the whole point of trolling is provoke someone to loose their cool. The piano guy spend good few minutes poking those asian peopl…

Well it's really hard to establish bigger dickness, although the Chinese was very polite the rest of the time, making up an assault case is pretty dicky (and probably criminal). I don't know about the racism though, it's possible but he might simply not like the Chinese government and political system (and assume that waving a Chinese flag means supporting it, which was probably the case).

He isn't racist. There are older videos of him positively interacting with what looks to be Chinese. If he didn't like the Chinese government and political system before he definitely doesn't like now (as nobody should). Claims of racism are nonsense.