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Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by boomboomsubban »

mandmandam wrote: post #303
boomboomsubban wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>ICJ is the world's highest court, and genocide cases are very rare. Their verdict, without any question, has "international significance". It's by far the most significant development in months The verdict had a thread with over fifteen hundred comments and was on the front page most of the day. Others were presumably down ranked as they were dupes. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39143043

The linked deleted thread was 90 minutes older than the thread that 'survived'. Also, it was removed within a minute of hitting the front page (if I'm reading the graphs right). Doesn't quite line up with your presumption. Any theories on why the Guardian's visual exploration of Gaza's destruction was flagged, despite positive upvotes and comments? Besides - the point is this: Not all the stories that are in OP's lis…

>Doesn't quite line up with your presumption.

Presumably users flagged both posts almost immediately, and by the time mods decided that the topic was worth discussion the second thread had more engagement. The first thread was still a dupe despite being posted earlier.

>Any theories on why the Guardian's visual exploration of Gaza's destruction was flagged, despite positive upvotes and comments?

While the verdict was a major event like you said, The Guardian's story was not. Users flagged it, like all posts on the topic, and the mods decided it was not different enough from previous discussions to justify a new flame war.

The ongoing wars are topics worthy of discussions, and they get discussed here. They don't need daily discussions. If you want daily discussions, there are plenty of places you can go to do that.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by tptacek »

ggdG wrote: post #306
alwa wrote: post #238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whether or not we’re able to discuss controversial subjects, a topic’s controversy doesn’t imply importance or relevance. It seems to me that the quality of any public discussion tends to increase when it’s relevant to the expertise in the room, and decrease when it involves people’s casual reads of complicated stuff about which they have vague but emotionally-charged impressions. HN folks have great, nuanced discuss…

> It seems to me that the quality of any public discussion tends to increase when it’s relevant to the expertise in the room, and decrease when it involves people’s casual reads of complicated stuff about which they have vague but emotionally-charged impressions. HN folks have great, nuanced discussions about a wide range of technical questions, but we’re much less likely to collectively know what we’re talking about…

There's a lot of expertise about COVID here! The problem is, in a variational autoencoder discussion, that's mostly all there is, and in COVID threads there is lots of energy from non-COVID experts.

This isn't complicated. You can just look at any COVID thread and see what a shitshow it is. That's not for lack of COVID expertise, though most of that expertise is probably Homer-melding-backwards-into-the-hedges when they see the thread.

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Post by wtallis »

nvm0n2 wrote: post #299
CamperBob2 wrote: post #161

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(Shrug) I don't require scientific proof of the inverse-square law. It's self-evident to the point of being axiomatic. Standing 6 feet away from a virus source will expose you to about 44% fewer virus particles than standing 5 feet away from one, while not imposing any real hardships in most public interaction scenarios. What's controversial about that? If you demand precise scientific rigor in all aspects of everyda…

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Generally, after asserting that someone is drastically wrong, the next few paragraphs should be about backing that claim up with convincing evidence and explanations. Instead you digressed into talking about droplets vs aerosols and forgot to even make a connection between that and the "drastically wrong" take you were replying to.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by ggdG »

felixgallo wrote: post #237
BobaFloutist wrote: post #168

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Personally, I thought it was already pretty well established that the six-foot rule was based on poor science. I remember hearing about that years ago.

The thing is, you're not even wrong. The six foot rule was based on what the best understanding of the experts was at the time, and probably saved thousands of lives. Just like forced masking up probably saved tens of thousands of lives. Both were great examples of science, which readily admits to tuning when new evidence comes into play. However, because there's a right wing cult around Donald Trump, whose fortunes…

>The six foot rule was based on what the best understanding of the experts was at the time, and probably saved thousands of lives.

You can't just make up the beneficial effects of something as you go. Can you cite some randomized controlled trials that support your claim?

>Just like forced masking up probably saved tens of thousands of lives.

One year ago, a huge Cochrane meta-analysis of the available RCTs regarding masking has put that idea to bed: https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD...

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Post by jeremyjh »

dang wrote: post #158
TheCoreh wrote: post #36

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At a quick glance, I found several that don't match that criteria you mention, here are a few: Open Source Doesn't Require Providing Builds https://codeengineered.com/blog/2024/open-source-not-builds/ Sam Altman Says AI Using Too Much Energy Will Require Breakthrough Energy Source https://futurism.com/sam-altman-energy-breakthrough Avoid Async Rust at All Cost https://blog.hugpoint.tech/avoid_async_rust.html (Perhaps…

The first two you listed were downranked by the flamewar detector. The last one was downranked by users. Admins didn't touch any of them. Note for everybody: can you guys please include the HN /item link if you're mentioning specific threads? That would be much more efficient and that way I can answer many more of people's questions.

The flags on the last item don't seem to be made in good faith. This looks like abuse of the flag system to me. Is there a system for monitoring flag abuse?

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by falsandtru »

dang wrote: post #139

I don't have a problem with users building things like this because the principles by which HN works are all easy enough to explain and defend—just remember that anything this complex is inevitably a mess, so you need to have high tolerance for messiness if you want to understand it accurately. However, it's important to correct inaccuracies like the one mentioned here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39231537 .…

There are several low-point, long-lived but highly ranked unnatural posts on the top page that appear to be manipulated. Such unnaturalness and opacity make users feel that the ranking is arbitrary and unfair, even if for good reasons. Can you display the manipulation that has been done on the ranking and other lists per post? For example, a reset of the submission time should be easily displayed.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by crackercrews »

Yesterday I posted a link that was flagged off the front page. I can see that your tool is driving traffic to it and appreciate that.

Not everyone wants to discuss political topics on HN. They say there are other places to discuss such topics. I like to hear the opinions of the HN audience on a wide variety of topics. Maybe this tool will help those of us who value the HN community in this way by facilitating discussions on topics deemed inappropriate for the official front page.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by viccis »

Reddit used to have a similar thing (r/RedditMinusMods). Eventually when it got to the point that 48-50 out of the top 50 posts were removed every 12 hours, reddit banned the sub for unspecified reasons.

http://web.archive.org/web/20221110043732/https://old.reddit...

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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Post by [deleted] »

jeremyjh wrote: post #315
dang wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first two you listed were downranked by the flamewar detector. The last one was downranked by users. Admins didn't touch any of them. Note for everybody: can you guys please include the HN /item link if you're mentioning specific threads? That would be much more efficient and that way I can answer many more of people's questions.

The flags on the last item don't seem to be made in good faith. This looks like abuse of the flag system to me. Is there a system for monitoring flag abuse?

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