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Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 million vehicles

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Re: Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 million vehicles

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We have safety standards for a reason. Details are important, especially in dangerous equipment like cars and airplanes.

Sure, the NHTSA did the right thing. The NY Post, on the other hand...

Do you believe NHTSA forcing Tesla to fix a safety issue is not worth calling out, in particular to TSLA shareholders?

The solution to many recalls these days is a software update. Cars are becoming computers with wheels...

Re: Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 million vehicles

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Yeah, I can’t believe so many words are spilled in an article over such a nothing burger… well I can believe it but it’s sad. I’m just as much of a Tesla critic as anyone I’d say but this is really a reach.

If it's become as formal as a recall, it's worth at least noting. Sure, the fix is simple (and most folks won't even notice), but Tesla was still forced into making the fix.

It seems to be a mandated requirement, as opposed to some subjective UI decision. The bigger deal is that it may indicate they don't have a good enough process to check/track these federal requirements.

Re: Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 million vehicles

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Because the articles don't make it super obvious in the headline that it's a software update.

The solution for many recalls these days is quite often a software update. No, what's notable is Tesla was forced to issue the update. This probably has consequences for Tesla beyond some bandwidth.

I'm glad our regulators have teeth. I'm just annoyed with these headlines "Largest auto recall of 2.2 million cars" which gives images of piles of teslas being sent to service centers to be retrofitted when you can pay a single software engineer a few weeks of salary to solve the problem.

Re: Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 million vehicles

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We need a term other than "recall" for minor software changes. The headline makes it sound like 2.2mm vehicles are going to be scheduling service appointments to fix this.

Perhaps, but it's still important to draw attention to mistakes, for transparency and accountability.

Additionally, other "recalls" for other car companies may similarly be minor software changes. The only distinguishing factor with Tesla is OTA deployment.

Re: Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 million vehicles

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We have safety standards for a reason. Details are important, especially in dangerous equipment like cars and airplanes.

Are there standards for touch screen UI elements?

From the article:

"The agency [NHTSA] says that the brake, park and anti-lock brake warning lights have a smaller font size than required by federal safety standards."

Re: Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 million vehicles

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Ya there is a bunch of missing information from the headline... thats why there is an article, to talk about it.

We both know most people don't hence the journalistic integrity required to write a headline properly conveying the severity which is "It ain't shit."

Ahhh, so the company is required to put all the juice in the headline, to save you a click, so they don't get your view. The current headline provides factual information and is in no way clickbait. As far as NYT Post headlines go... this has got the be the least egregious. If you want to be informed, RTFA. Why should we reorganize society for the laziest individual? That is the path to Idiocracy.

Re: Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 million vehicles

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post #16

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Ya there is a bunch of missing information from the headline... thats why there is an article, to talk about it.

We both know most people don't hence the journalistic integrity required to write a headline properly conveying the severity which is "It ain't shit."

FWIW, journalists literally don’t write their own headlines.

That’s an editor or sub-editor’s domain.

Re: Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 million vehicles

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Another massive recall... to increase the font size on some icons on their UI. That's it. That's all there is to the recall.

Can I use this at my dayjob? “Boss, it’s Friday… do we really want to recall our mobile version affecting all 10 million MAU?” But I just asked if we can make the fonts bigger on mobile?

Would your mobile app violate established safety standards?

Re: Tesla facing another massive recall – affecting 2.2 million vehicles

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Sure, the NHTSA did the right thing. The NY Post, on the other hand...

Do you believe NHTSA forcing Tesla to fix a safety issue is not worth calling out, in particular to TSLA shareholders? The solution to many recalls these days is a software update. Cars are becoming computers with wheels...

It only matters to shareholders in how much it costs. Considering it's going to be an incredibly minor software update, I'm guessing the cost is negligible.
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