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Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#81

> While I have no reason to doubt Daniel's good faith, it's hard to believe that HN users would be tired of LLM-related news Surprise! Yes, We are!

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The corpse of blockchain would like to have a word with you :)

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#82
I've always assumed that when a story rapidly drops past the first three pages (e.g. >90) it is because it has been flagged some indicative, disproportionate number of times[1] by users with flag functionality. The submission seems to presume that such drops are only the result of Daniel or whoever manually doing it.

Which is true?

[1] - Notably the majority of the "removed" stories have pretty tiny number of upvotes, so if flags are weighted proportionately it wouldn't take many.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

dang has been doing a fantastic job for years now. How big is his team? What kind of tools are they using? Would love to read a writeup sometime, but I guess there are good reasons to keep this secret.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-silicon-valley/th...

Tldr the answer is “2”. Not sure how posting a link where this info is buried is helpful.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#84
post #3

Looking at the list of removed stories makes me really happy with the moderators here. They're all sensationalist, advertising for some company, clickbait, way off topic, or some combination of above. In fact, I don't see a single story that I personally feel should not have been removed. Thanks, mods.

At a quick glance, I found several that don't match that criteria you mention, here are a few: Open Source Doesn't Require Providing Builds https://codeengineered.com/blog/2024/open-source-not-builds/ Sam Altman Says AI Using Too Much Energy Will Require Breakthrough Energy Source https://futurism.com/sam-altman-energy-breakthrough Avoid Async Rust at All Cost https://blog.hugpoint.tech/avoid_async_rust.html (Perhaps…

I don't agree with the GP at all. Most seem normal for the front page or the intellectual curiosity standard (I mean, personally I'd like a much higher standard, but I'm basing it on what HN already has).

All from only one day:

* Ford's new 48-inch digital dashboard is a lot of Android for one car: https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/22/24045932/ford-android-scr...

* Secret Plan Against Germany (a very big story in Germany about a far-right planning meeting): https://correctiv.org/en/top-stories/2024/01/15/secret-plan-...

* Show HN: Vx.dev – GitHub-Powered AI for effortless development: https://vxdev.pages.dev/

* Open Source Doesn't Require Providing Builds: https://codeengineered.com/blog/2024/open-source-not-builds/

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#85
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At a quick glance, I found several that don't match that criteria you mention, here are a few: Open Source Doesn't Require Providing Builds https://codeengineered.com/blog/2024/open-source-not-builds/ Sam Altman Says AI Using Too Much Energy Will Require Breakthrough Energy Source https://futurism.com/sam-altman-energy-breakthrough Avoid Async Rust at All Cost https://blog.hugpoint.tech/avoid_async_rust.html (Perhaps…

Two out of three currently aren't removed. There's no moderator comment on the third, but a fair number of upvotes and user comments; I think it was flagged by users. Open Source Doesn't Require Providing Builds https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39094387 Sam Altman Says AI Using Too Much Energy Will Require Breakthrough Energy Source https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39095738 Avoid Async Rust at All Cost (flagg…

There's a difference between removed and removed from the front page.

IIRC: Mods can downrank a post so that it doesn't change anything for users, aside from the fact it won't be on the front page.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#86

> While I have no reason to doubt Daniel's good faith, it's hard to believe that HN users would be tired of LLM-related news. I am, so you can believe it. But: I don't flag things that I'm tired of.

I make my money building things with LLMs and even I am tired of reading about them

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#87
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At a quick glance, I found several that don't match that criteria you mention, here are a few: Open Source Doesn't Require Providing Builds https://codeengineered.com/blog/2024/open-source-not-builds/ Sam Altman Says AI Using Too Much Energy Will Require Breakthrough Energy Source https://futurism.com/sam-altman-energy-breakthrough Avoid Async Rust at All Cost https://blog.hugpoint.tech/avoid_async_rust.html (Perhaps…

Two out of three currently aren't removed. There's no moderator comment on the third, but a fair number of upvotes and user comments; I think it was flagged by users. Open Source Doesn't Require Providing Builds https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39094387 Sam Altman Says AI Using Too Much Energy Will Require Breakthrough Energy Source https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39095738 Avoid Async Rust at All Cost (flagg…

> Two out of three currently aren't removed

How can you tell? Those are from a week and a half ago. The OP's definition of 'removed' is (if I understand correctly) 'dropped from the top-30 to below the top-90 in 1 minute'.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

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post #85
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two out of three currently aren't removed. There's no moderator comment on the third, but a fair number of upvotes and user comments; I think it was flagged by users. Open Source Doesn't Require Providing Builds https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39094387 Sam Altman Says AI Using Too Much Energy Will Require Breakthrough Energy Source https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39095738 Avoid Async Rust at All Cost (flagg…

There's a difference between removed and removed from the front page. IIRC: Mods can downrank a post so that it doesn't change anything for users, aside from the fact it won't be on the front page.

> Mods can downrank a post so that it doesn't change anything for users, aside from the fact it won't be on the front page.

That's a big change?

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#89
> In fact, I don't see a single story that I personally feel should not have been removed.

I don't understand why this story was removed: "It turns out the six-feet social-distancing rule had no scientific basis", https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39200511

On a forum with an overwhelmingly science-minded audience, it bothers me that an important topic like that is deemed untouchable.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#90

> While I have no reason to doubt Daniel's good faith, it's hard to believe that HN users would be tired of LLM-related news Surprise! Yes, We are!

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Believe it or not, it's possible to be both interested in LLMs and also feel that there is too much LLM content on a given aggregator.
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