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> While I have no reason to doubt Daniel's good faith, it's hard to believe that HN users would be tired of LLM-related news. I am, so you can believe it. But: I don't flag things that I'm tired of.

If I could, I'd hibernate until such time as I didn't have to hear about generative AI anymore.

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#43

> While I have no reason to doubt Daniel's good faith, it's hard to believe that HN users would be tired of LLM-related news. I am, so you can believe it. But: I don't flag things that I'm tired of.

There was some heavy handed moderation decision that moot made, can't remember what, but he enforced it by saying "One man's shitpost is another man's board culture". I think about that a lot when it comes to moderation because people tend to assume everyone in the community is just like them; and really only moderators have a gauge on how saturated certain can be.

It's also why I don't like the "free speech at all costs" meme that gets thrown around when $corporation bans $person_i_like. Every community needs moderation and it's often a thankless job that feels like nothing is being done at all when it's being done right.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#44
post #3

Looking at the list of removed stories makes me really happy with the moderators here. They're all sensationalist, advertising for some company, clickbait, way off topic, or some combination of above. In fact, I don't see a single story that I personally feel should not have been removed. Thanks, mods.

At a quick glance, I found several that don't match that criteria you mention, here are a few: Open Source Doesn't Require Providing Builds https://codeengineered.com/blog/2024/open-source-not-builds/ Sam Altman Says AI Using Too Much Energy Will Require Breakthrough Energy Source https://futurism.com/sam-altman-energy-breakthrough Avoid Async Rust at All Cost https://blog.hugpoint.tech/avoid_async_rust.html (Perhaps…

YMMV. I don't want to see Altman's fearmongering and hyperbolic statements.

At this point he's indistinguishable from a bitcoin advocate or a tv preacher.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#45
post #16

this post in now at the top, I wonder wether it will be removed ;)

Is there any reason why you would assume this in such a snarky conspiracy-esque tone?

Like someone above pointed out, a rule of moderation on HN literally is, that stories about HN or ycombinator companies itself are moderated less [0].

[0] - https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#46
post #3

Looking at the list of removed stories makes me really happy with the moderators here. They're all sensationalist, advertising for some company, clickbait, way off topic, or some combination of above. In fact, I don't see a single story that I personally feel should not have been removed. Thanks, mods.

It really is impressive how HN has been such a quality community for so long. I can’t think of any of many other online communities that I have been using for 10+ years. So definitely much gratitude to the mods from me for the work they do.

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#47
post #32

i feel like every news source, forum, link aggregator, ... has its own target audience and scope of topics that make for productive discussion, its own biases and predispositions, its own trolls and need for pruning and moderation. i feel like yes of course there are many things i disagree with on this site. but ultimately i value the information shared and the discussion enough to keep coming back. any relationship…

I think you're going to see people start leaving Reddit as the IPO approaches and many will be coming to HN or other reddit-clones.

Half the comments on Reddit really do seem to be made by bots, you can easily tell when you look at their post history.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#48

"While I have no reason to doubt Daniel's good faith, it's hard to believe that HN users would be tired of LLM-related news." If you believe that HN is a hive mind and all users must believe in the exact same things, then yes, this is probably hard to believe. I however, am tired of LLM news, but I just simply ignore them as I'm well aware that many people here are very much interested in them. So at least an anecdot…

I think this is an unnecessarily uncharitable reading, that the author assumes HN is a hive mind.

Replace "HN users" with "most HN users" (it's common to use general language when one's intention is to point out a trend in a population) and, as another person tired of AI/LLM news, I would also be surprised given how much popularity (upvotes, comments) HN users tended to give to those stories.

Re: Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time

#49
post #12

> I sent an email to the moderator. @dang, who was very kind and quick in his response, explained to me that the Story had been flagged by users even without being explicitly [flagged], and that he could therefore only hypothesize the causes of the flag. Maybe this is a consequence of Hacker News not having a way to downvote stories? I only flag stories that are blatant violation of HN's guidelines: SPAM, politics, r…

Yea, I suspect a sizable number of people use "flag" as a mega-downvote for things they passionately don't like, rather than for policy violations and spam.

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