If you can't fathom people being tired of LLM-related news, have I got an NFT for you!
Stories removed from the Hacker News Front Page, updated in real time
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#32i feel like yes of course there are many things i disagree with on this site. but ultimately i value the information shared and the discussion enough to keep coming back. any relationship where people always agree there is probably only one person doing the actual thinking.
i have learned so much about tech here, i have learned about many best practices and projects that i would have never heard of, i have made no bones about my thoughts on various subjects that could easily be classified as touchy, i have really enjoyed the discourse. for the time being i definitely plan and hope to continue doing so.
(so while this site is an interesting artifact, and maybe it is good that someone is taking a look and keeping a record, i personally won't bother unless/until i see a pressing need. at which point i will maybe just move on instead tbh.)
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#33Looking at the list of removed stories makes me really happy with the moderators here. They're all sensationalist, advertising for some company, clickbait, way off topic, or some combination of above. In fact, I don't see a single story that I personally feel should not have been removed. Thanks, mods.
dang has been doing a fantastic job for years now. How big is his team? What kind of tools are they using? Would love to read a writeup sometime, but I guess there are good reasons to keep this secret.
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#34It'd be interesting to see removed vs flagged, if you can scrape flag kills. The flagging system is a great utility, but certain things (e.g. anything pro-Musk) get mass flagged for emotional reasons.
Unfortunately those stories often turn into flamewars. That's probably why people are flagging them.
I don't think it's wise to draw so many inferences about why people vote the way they do. Frequently I see comments where someone makes a reasonable point, but also drops a bunch of flamebait, and when they're inevitably flagged they edit their comment to claim that the flags prove their point and that the problem who disagree with them are overly sensitive and censorious. But in reality a lot of the people flagging them probably agree with them, but don't want them to start a flamewars. I flag a lot of comments like that, even when I am agree with their overall point. (I actually did that with a comment just now.)
It's a form of self fulfilling prophecy and further entrenches you into your position, which is antithetical to curious discussion.
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#35"While I have no reason to doubt Daniel's good faith, it's hard to believe that HN users would be tired of LLM-related news." If you believe that HN is a hive mind and all users must believe in the exact same things, then yes, this is probably hard to believe. I however, am tired of LLM news, but I just simply ignore them as I'm well aware that many people here are very much interested in them. So at least an anecdot…
It would be ultra-cool to have rough topic filters here, so I could just go to settings and hit a checkbox to ignore all the LLM-this and AI-that articles. Easier said than done, I'm sure.
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#36Looking at the list of removed stories makes me really happy with the moderators here. They're all sensationalist, advertising for some company, clickbait, way off topic, or some combination of above. In fact, I don't see a single story that I personally feel should not have been removed. Thanks, mods.
Open Source Doesn't Require Providing Builds
https://codeengineered.com/blog/2024/open-source-not-builds/
Sam Altman Says AI Using Too Much Energy Will Require Breakthrough Energy Source
https://futurism.com/sam-altman-energy-breakthrough
Avoid Async Rust at All Cost
https://blog.hugpoint.tech/avoid_async_rust.html
(Perhaps that last one could be renamed to be less hyperbolic, but the content was still an interesting opinion piece)
I don't think this is being done by the mods, by the way. It's more likely some spam filter with false positives, report brigading, or an anti upvote ring mechanism.
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#38Thanks.
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#39I think the answer to this is... go set up your our LLM News web site and build a community. I really love HN but I wanted more retro computing and gaming news so I created by own site (https://twostopbits.com/) using the HN source code. It's not hard. Go build the thing you want and moderate it.
I've been in various online communities for over 35 years and I can tell you that by far the best moderated and longest successfully running community is HN (for a while The Well was amazing).
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#40I wonder if a useful application for these "AI"s could be to pull interesting - to someone - stories from what the hive minds rejected ;)
Just to be clear, this is stories that got completely removed off the front page and does not include whatever is still available 4 pages behind but got overtaken by other stuff?
Sometimes I see an interesting heading but skip it, and when i reload it's gone. I doubt they were all flagged into oblivion.