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Japan to introduce six-month residency visa for 'digital nomads'

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Re: Japan to introduce six-month residency visa for 'digital nomads'

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Post by boringg »

standardUser wrote: post #174
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #137

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So they only want high earning workers from developed countries, basically the kind of immigrants every other country wants but doesn't dare say it out loud. What's wrong with that? Their country, their rules.

> basically the kind of immigrants every other country wants but doesn't dare say it out loud Many nations have high standards for immigration relating to income, wealth and professional qualifications. There is absolutely nothing hush hush about it, not even remotely.

Not sure about this comment - I think you need to put up examples here. I think your comment is historically true but not up to date with current policies.

Re: Japan to introduce six-month residency visa for 'digital nomads'

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Post by holoduke »

I think within 10 years this is also needed in Europe. Back in 2000 1 in 5 eligible for working were pensioned. Now its 1 in the 3. This mumber only gets worse. Japan is a few years ahead. But population decline in a growth based economy is not good. So yeah. Attrack the right people is what needs to happen. Imho still ducktape on the original issue.

Re: Japan to introduce six-month residency visa for 'digital nomads'

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Post by herbst »

csomar wrote: post #175
herbst wrote: post #124

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What kind of savings? I live in Switzerland now and barely spend more in a lazy month than I did in 'super cheap thailand'

I challenge this as someone who frequents Thailand and the SEA region. You can get a nice condo (short-term airbnb/utilities paid) for $500 or less; only 20 minutes from central Bangkok. Sure, more expensive options exist. But comparing Switzerland to Thailand when it comes to living costs is plain ridiculous.

See my comment below: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39230623

As travelling(!) nomad with an effective tax residency in Switzerland other than living cost and food there aren't as many actual saving options.

Vs being stational in a country with low tax and a cheap long term rental. For ME the difference isn't very high.

Re: Japan to introduce six-month residency visa for 'digital nomads'

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Post by fxtentacle »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #137
fxtentacle wrote: post #120

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Yeah I also find it weird because "To be eligible for the new status, applicants must have an annual income equivalent to 10 million yen ($68,000) or more" which means the newly created Digital Nomad class needs to have 2x the average GDP/capita in income?

So they only want high earning workers from developed countries, basically the kind of immigrants every other country wants but doesn't dare say it out loud. What's wrong with that? Their country, their rules.

The article says "Japan hopes its new visa status will attract [..] YouTubers earning advertising fees from overseas companies." and this is about digital nomads. To me, that seems weird because most digital nomads (and most YouTube personalities) aren't going to make that $68k limit.

Re: Japan to introduce six-month residency visa for 'digital nomads'

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Post by [deleted] »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #137
fxtentacle wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I also find it weird because "To be eligible for the new status, applicants must have an annual income equivalent to 10 million yen ($68,000) or more" which means the newly created Digital Nomad class needs to have 2x the average GDP/capita in income?

So they only want high earning workers from developed countries, basically the kind of immigrants every other country wants but doesn't dare say it out loud. What's wrong with that? Their country, their rules.

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Re: Japan to introduce six-month residency visa for 'digital nomads'

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Post by awongh »

carlosjobim wrote: post #155
awongh wrote: post #139

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There's a lot of gloom and doom around Japan, but I think there are a few counter-points. 1) Yes, the economy is stagnant. But it's interesting to think about it from the point of view that Japan disproves the idea that a growth economy is the only way. Here is a country that increases worker efficiency and has a really high standard of living, but doesn't do it in a hyper growth kind of way. 2) Yes, Japan is super,…

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There's a discussion around the english words for people who come to a country. Some people are "expats" and some people are "immigrants".

I was talking about "immigrants" rather than "expats".

Of course this dynamic has many facets to it. I've met some people in Thailand who couldn't give a shit about Thai people and just wanted to save 50% on their latte. This is a common "expat" sterotype.

There has been, and still is a lot of "orientalization" of Japan, but almost every immigrant you meet in Japan today has a deep love for Japan in some way. (Also because only the truly dedicated would go to the trouble to be able to stay). So if Japan decided to start allowing more people in I feel like they would all fall more on the immigrant side than the expat side.

Re: Japan to introduce six-month residency visa for 'digital nomads'

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Post by rurp »

carlosjobim wrote: post #155
awongh wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot of gloom and doom around Japan, but I think there are a few counter-points. 1) Yes, the economy is stagnant. But it's interesting to think about it from the point of view that Japan disproves the idea that a growth economy is the only way. Here is a country that increases worker efficiency and has a really high standard of living, but doesn't do it in a hyper growth kind of way. 2) Yes, Japan is super,…

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Wait, who is talking about colonization? The Royal Navy isn't planning an invasion of Japan; nobody is forcing anything on the country regarding immigration or demographics. The country has chosen to keep immigration low for decades, as is their right. Now they are facing a demographic crisis and could choose to relax those policies to help alleviate population concerns.

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Post by aidenn0 »

riffic wrote: post #164
aidenn0 wrote: post #153

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Only if they allow immigration.

I just don't have the imaginative capabilities of seeing the entire archipelago depopulated but I suppose it's possible.

Yeah, actual extinction seems impossible, if for no other reason that at some point above "0" the population will no longer be able to sustain a functioning government, and a non-functioning government isn't going to be able to regulate immigration.

Re: Japan to introduce six-month residency visa for 'digital nomads'

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Post by herbst »

ghaff wrote: post #177
herbst wrote: post #165

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In fact for any visa outside of Europe I had so far I signed a long precise list of things I can and can't do. That's what all the small text is about.

China I definitely needed a business visa to go to a conference. Malaysia was some sort of visa on arrival thing. Indonesia I don't remember but it wasn't something I had to get ahead of time and that was business. Japan I don't need a visa from the US nor Singapore; ditto for Europe. It's entirely possible if I needed a visa for some of the countries I've been to, I might have needed a business visa of some sort for…

Visa on arrival forms have a reference to a URL or something attached and mention that you acknowledge their visa rules by applying for a visa. It's like a prechecked privacy policy checkbox.

Re: Japan to introduce six-month residency visa for 'digital nomads'

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Post by lawgimenez »

carlosjobim wrote: post #155
awongh wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot of gloom and doom around Japan, but I think there are a few counter-points. 1) Yes, the economy is stagnant. But it's interesting to think about it from the point of view that Japan disproves the idea that a growth economy is the only way. Here is a country that increases worker efficiency and has a really high standard of living, but doesn't do it in a hyper growth kind of way. 2) Yes, Japan is super,…

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My country has been colonized by Spain for 333 years, as far as I know my kind did not go poof. We just inherited all the colonizers language and bullshit.
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