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The Mystery of Chernobyl's Post-Invasion Radiation Spikes (2023)

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Re: The Mystery of Chernobyl's Post-Invasion Radiation Spikes (2023)

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Post by troyvit »

JohnnyLarue wrote: post #5

It's almost like Ukraine isn't as trustworthy, and Russia isn't as untrustworthy as we're being asked to believe. Weird, huh?

It's lame when there's one comment on a post, and it's being down-voted instead of replied to.

I agree that Ukraine has problems which it's inconvenient for MSM to focus on. That said I can only imagine what I'd do if I was in their shoes. It's war, they're the little guys, they've had a history of a fair amount of corruption, and they face an existential threat. It's not like it's something my country wouldn't do if they felt they had to.

It may not even have been state actors, kind-of like some theories about the Nord pipeline explosion.[1]

Heh, as far as Russia being less untrustworthy than they are presented to be? Let's just say they have a ton of work to do before I'd believe that.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Nord_Stream_pipeline_sabo...

Re: The Mystery of Chernobyl's Post-Invasion Radiation Spikes (2023)

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Post by commodorepet »

Would this not make a total sense if you assumed that Ukrainians wanted to get Russians out of Chernobyl and what not better way than having Russian soldiers read news that radioactivity in the area is at all time high? Secondly, a news in the West that Russians are possibly messing up with nuclear infrastructure would only encourage support for Ukraine.

In this context seems like a win/win situation for Ukraine. The might loose some credibility but if a true disaster happens independent inspectors can be flew in on day's notice and take measurements.

Re: The Mystery of Chernobyl's Post-Invasion Radiation Spikes (2023)

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Post by wkat4242 »

commodorepet wrote: post #7

Would this not make a total sense if you assumed that Ukrainians wanted to get Russians out of Chernobyl and what not better way than having Russian soldiers read news that radioactivity in the area is at all time high? Secondly, a news in the West that Russians are possibly messing up with nuclear infrastructure would only encourage support for Ukraine. In this context seems like a win/win situation for Ukraine. The…

Yeah besides that, Russia is very big on fake news and misdirection themselves. It makes total sense to turn their own trick back on them. Remember when they shot down MH17 and fabricated all sorts of fake radar images to pretend it was shot down by a Ukrainian fighter?

And yeah really good idea to scare the shit out of their soldiers to undermine morale. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to have had much effect.

The readings from a few sensors really have no importance compared to your civilians being systematically executed like in Bucha.

Re: The Mystery of Chernobyl's Post-Invasion Radiation Spikes (2023)

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Post by The_Colonel »

troyvit wrote: post #6
JohnnyLarue wrote: post #5

It's almost like Ukraine isn't as trustworthy, and Russia isn't as untrustworthy as we're being asked to believe. Weird, huh?

It's lame when there's one comment on a post, and it's being down-voted instead of replied to. I agree that Ukraine has problems which it's inconvenient for MSM to focus on. That said I can only imagine what I'd do if I was in their shoes. It's war, they're the little guys, they've had a history of a fair amount of corruption, and they face an existential threat. It's not like it's something my country wouldn't do if…

Follow the incentives. Destruction of the NS2 benefits Ukraine, I always suspected it was someone from Ukraine or the West. Russia destroying it never made sense.

But Russia has used nuclear scare several times, it's part of their playbook, because deniable nuclear FUD works in their benefit. Western public is very sensitive about this topic and the reaction won't be "we need to escalate", rather appeasement towards Russia. I don't see how Ukraine would benefit, the theories laid out in the article don't make sense IMHO.

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