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'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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Post by b112 »

hnaccount_rng wrote: post #161
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody’s buying at $1000/month but “giving them half off” makes them think they’re getting a deal. What they don’t know is they could just have a file on their computer named “is this offensive (open when drunk).txt” with contents that read “yes”.

Um… there are liters lawyers and PR professionals that make their living with that kind of service. And for a certain personality type… I don’t see the 1k$/month being the relevant factor. I’d bet there would be buyers for that service. Though: Probably not enough to actually sustain the liability insurance that you’d need to deal with the complaints of a faulty product

It's OK. If the client tries to write a nasty tweet about you, or email a lawyer about you, it will "help" the client, by telling them this is offensive and blocking the action.

Doubly so if you try to uninstall it.

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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Post by progre »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #201
Cornbilly wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Going to take your idea and take a step further. Random Cannibal Corpse lyrics in my email signature. Can't wait to be blameless for the lyrics for Necropedophile showing up in an email to the CEO.

I heard Cradle of Filth had mixed success in the UK tech industry executive sphere.

They got me through some pretty bleak times, try track 4 "Coffin fodder".

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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Post by hackideiomat »

cj wrote: post #44

As a YC alum who worked with Gary Tan directly, this is… odd. Anyone who knows Gary knows he’s a (relatively) gentle human being. I can’t imagine him hurting a fly. His tweets seem totally out of character compared to the Gary Tan I personally knew. Maybe he has changed? I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

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Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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Post by hackideiomat »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #196
bhawks wrote: post #104

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The fact that it is a quote (which I didn't know) moves it out of the extremely disturbing category and into the extremely cringe & very disappointing category. SF politics is a clown show on all sides - Garry has lost serious credibility that he could play some part in cleaning it up. I think he knows that.

To me, it's extremely disturbing that someone would consider this whole thing as extremely disturbing in the first place. Whether people in the US are extremely oversenstive to tweets and words, or that the tweets and words have the power to suddenly make regular people hateful and violent - neither of those states are normal . Either that, or the country really is a few Twitter sparks away from civil war, which agai…

Dude can move so many millions around I'd shit my pants if he tells me to die slow.

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Post by Rapzid »

gfodor wrote: post #8

You'd never guess that this was a Tupac quote by the media coverage and wave after wave of forced outrage. The whole thing is so embarassing.

It's a Tupac quote when you're quoting Tupac.

That's not how people quote things though. That's how you get drunk and let the world know how you really feel about some people lol.

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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Post by hackideiomat »

timmytokyo wrote: post #217
TeMPOraL wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me, it's extremely disturbing that someone would consider this whole thing as extremely disturbing in the first place. Whether people in the US are extremely oversenstive to tweets and words, or that the tweets and words have the power to suddenly make regular people hateful and violent - neither of those states are normal . Either that, or the country really is a few Twitter sparks away from civil war, which agai…

Your comment seems to suggest that you're viewing this event from outside the US. If so, perhaps you're unaware of the dangerous and recent rise in violent political rhetoric here. Garry Tan is a prominent and powerful person in the tech industry, and his words carry weight. When he rips violent lyrics out of a hip-hop song and refashions them into a political rant, he's pouring more fuel on a fire that's starting to…

Well if you attack his friends, it's not okay, but if you go which death upon 'the leftists' he wouldn't say a thing, I bet

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Post by fzeroracer »

arduanika wrote: post #165
gfodor wrote: post #8

You'd never guess that this was a Tupac quote by the media coverage and wave after wave of forced outrage. The whole thing is so embarassing.

Oh. In that case it's no biggie.

Well of course it's no Biggie. They just said it was Tupac.

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Post by vidarh »

MetalGuru wrote: post #155
tempsy wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Threatening to kill someone isn’t a “shitpost”. The fact it’s a Tupac lyric is not like common knowledge. I doubt a random poll of Twitter users would show most people would know the reference immediately.

To be fair, who doesn't listen to Tupac?

Most people. That applies to far more well known artists than him too.

I'm vaguely aware of him, and his name and how he died are fairly well known, but I couldn't name a single track if my life dependent on it.

But even with artists "everyone" listens to, most people's listening is limited enough that assuming people know their lyrics would be stupid.

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Post by hiAndrewQuinn »

asddubs wrote: post #211
raffraffraff wrote: post #199

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This was the case pre Elon too. It's human nature. People are social creatures and they love to join some fight as long as they have their own comrades with them. My wife spent years on Twitter embroiled in a very long running and bitter political / rights issue. She was always thoughtful, insightful etc. She'd spend 10 minutes rewording a single tweet to make sure it got the real point across in a way that wasn't in…

thoughtful posts are boring, especially if you already agree with them. but people love a good spectacle

At the same time, a thoughtful post today can change the entire life direction of a ten years younger you and end up providing far more value to the world overall.

I know that was the case for me. I spent hundreds of hours of reading blog posts by intelligent, optimistic, philosophically transgressive at times but not actually rude or crass folks, all trying to grapple with how to live best in this world. I think this reshaped me to be a much better person in a whole bunch of ways. Very happy for it.

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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Post by vidarh »

nostrademons wrote: post #126
janalsncm wrote: post #111

I have a pitch for a new LLM that will read your tweet before you send it and warn you if it is offensive. $1000/month, half off if you’re a CEO.

Don't need an LLM for that (except maybe to get funding), a plain old classifier would work fine at a fraction of the training & inference costs.

Yeah, but why would you make that effort when all you'd need is the thinnest veneer over ChatGPT, and given the proposed pricing would leave plenty of margin?
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