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Re: Nasopharyngeal Lymphatics Found to Be Crucial for Cerebrospinal Fluid Outflow

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Post by farmdve »

shreezus wrote: post #16
abracadaniel wrote: post #4

Fascinating. Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but I immediately have questions about whether sleep quality links with neurodegenerative disease are instead a symptom of sleep apnea via reduced lymphatic stimulation and not sleep itself. Could diet impact it, not by the composition of the food, but by consistency and how much chewing is involved. Could chewing gum make a difference? Neck exercises? I wonder if there is a c…

There's been a lot of recent interest in mouth taping during sleep, which can help alleviate issues related to mouth breathing or snoring. Anecdotally I've seen improvement in overall sleep quality (quantified w/ a wearable device) when I use tape vs without.

How would that work for people with chronic stuffy nose due to stay a prior Staph infection and/or allergic reactions.

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Post by smallnamespace »

pug_mode wrote: post #29

What is the logic behind making this the title when presumably the majority of the techy crowd on hn would not be able to understand what it means or even why it's important?

If people don't understand the title then presumably they're not going to upvote it. That's why I think this sort of language policing to be not very useful—if you don't understand, then ignore it, and the system will sort itself out.

Personally, I found the title to be immediately understandable. I'm at techie but have had health issues where I believe poor brain CSF drainage has been a factor.

"Nasopharyngeal" can be a tricky word but "naso-" is a prefix that predictably means "nose", which lets you guess the rest.

The lymphatic system is quite important as your body's second circulatory system, but it's unfortunately not mentioned much in school here. Hopefully doctors are taught more about its importance.

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Post by andy_ppp »

NoPedantsThanks wrote: post #18
abracadaniel wrote: post #4

Fascinating. Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but I immediately have questions about whether sleep quality links with neurodegenerative disease are instead a symptom of sleep apnea via reduced lymphatic stimulation and not sleep itself. Could diet impact it, not by the composition of the food, but by consistency and how much chewing is involved. Could chewing gum make a difference? Neck exercises? I wonder if there is a c…

My dad has Parkinson's and has very poor-quality sleep. He also has had anti-snoring surgery in the past, and chronic post-nasal drip (which I also seem to have). This article raises questions in my mind as to whether any of these are related. Also interesting is this: "researchers were able to successfully modulate cervical lymphatics using phenylephrine (which activates α1-adrenergic receptors, causing smooth-muscl…

You could try other blood flow/nitric oxide enhancers, body builders use them to increase the pump https://www.ghostlifestyle.com/search?q=PUMP.

Or you could drink beetroot juice a few times per week.

Who knows if this will work though. I have my suspicions that inversions are very good for brain health and blood flow and I sleep better if I do yoga before bed.

I quite enjoy Sivananda yoga it’s fairly easy, reminds me of a beautiful time in their Ashram outside Madurai and you can see real progress because the basic routine is always the same.

https://youtu.be/AN0fVx8gi8w

Re: Nasopharyngeal Lymphatics Found to Be Crucial for Cerebrospinal Fluid Outflow

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Post by eurekin »

farmdve wrote: post #31
shreezus wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's been a lot of recent interest in mouth taping during sleep, which can help alleviate issues related to mouth breathing or snoring. Anecdotally I've seen improvement in overall sleep quality (quantified w/ a wearable device) when I use tape vs without.

How would that work for people with chronic stuffy nose due to stay a prior Staph infection and/or allergic reactions.

I had a runny nose most of my life - diagnosed allergies and etc.

One visit in laryngologist got me thinking; he said: "It's simple. Wet wounds heal fast and well. Dry ones can even not heal at all. You have dry lung mucosa and that's why you get infected easily: it's like an open wound".

He was right, after keeping > 50% humidity around myself I got better. That got me thinking of experimenting more.

What if, I had a running nose, because the body wanted to make my lungs less dry? So I forced myself to breath through nose for two weeks and again, got better. Still doing it, years after.

Re: Nasopharyngeal Lymphatics Found to Be Crucial for Cerebrospinal Fluid Outflow

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Post by akdor1154 »

frankus wrote: post #30
NoPedantsThanks wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My dad has Parkinson's and has very poor-quality sleep. He also has had anti-snoring surgery in the past, and chronic post-nasal drip (which I also seem to have). This article raises questions in my mind as to whether any of these are related. Also interesting is this: "researchers were able to successfully modulate cervical lymphatics using phenylephrine (which activates α1-adrenergic receptors, causing smooth-muscl…

IIUC it’s the minimal bioavailability of it in pill form that’s the problem, but it works ok when injected.

Also works great as a nasal spray, which is getting coincidentally close to the original article..

Re: Nasopharyngeal Lymphatics Found to Be Crucial for Cerebrospinal Fluid Outflow

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #9

Oh. I thought this was posted for its title, reminiscent of the best of grindcore and death metal bands.

    Prepare the aerosol
    Compact albuterol
    Short-acting beta-2-adrenoceptor agonist
    A metered dose shall cure me of this
    A failed commitment to a long term treatment
    Corticosteroids such as beclomethasone
    Or perhaps salmeterol in conjuction with those
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqkaUphCRfw

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

m3kw9 wrote: post #27

I know ppl that breathe with mouth during sleep say they felt much better after taping their mouths so they use their nose instead. Don’t tape it shut tho lol (disclaimer

I've seen chin straps (wrap something around your head), probably similar effect. I couldn't do tape, I have a beard xD

Re: Nasopharyngeal Lymphatics Found to Be Crucial for Cerebrospinal Fluid Outflow

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

ngneer wrote: post #11

Can you imagine a health news (HN) forum randomly posting links about computer science, software engineering and related topics?

If you like it, upvote it; if you don't like it, downvote it. That's how sites with upvote systems like HN work.

Unfortunately that also means interesting articles will never bubble up to the home page because they get lost in new.

Re: Nasopharyngeal Lymphatics Found to Be Crucial for Cerebrospinal Fluid Outflow

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Post by NoPedantsThanks »

frankus wrote: post #30
NoPedantsThanks wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My dad has Parkinson's and has very poor-quality sleep. He also has had anti-snoring surgery in the past, and chronic post-nasal drip (which I also seem to have). This article raises questions in my mind as to whether any of these are related. Also interesting is this: "researchers were able to successfully modulate cervical lymphatics using phenylephrine (which activates α1-adrenergic receptors, causing smooth-muscl…

IIUC it’s the minimal bioavailability of it in pill form that’s the problem, but it works ok when injected.

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