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'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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not sure what you’re talking about but rents in SF are still very much down vs 2019 market has demonstrated plenty it can lower rents as is

Don’t pretend it’s anywhere near a free market as is. It’s nigh impossible to build new or denser inventory there.

Yeah that’s not true

there’s plenty of half empty apartments all over soma and mission bay

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I thought the US was the land of Free Speech. And yet, when a guy speaks his mind he's burned at the stake. Of what use is that freedom, then? Or do you have to be poor and uninteresting to exercise it? Or only in front of your own mirror? So many paradoxes.

If the reference to Biden is the unacceptable one, I see President Biden daily expressing his thoughts on other world leaders, calling them names, saying who must die and who not, who is a good guy, who is a bad one. Is that Free Speech done right?

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I thought the US was the land of Free Speech. And yet, when a guy speaks his mind he's burned at the stake. Of what use is that freedom, then? Or do you have to be poor and uninteresting to exercise it? Or only in front of your own mirror? So many paradoxes. If the reference to Biden is the unacceptable one, I see President Biden daily expressing his thoughts on other world leaders, calling them names, saying who mus…

Freedom of speech in the US protects you from government prosecution for speech, not from the criticism of people that don’t agree with your speech.

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As a YC alum who worked with Gary Tan directly, this is… odd. Anyone who knows Gary knows he’s a (relatively) gentle human being. I can’t imagine him hurting a fly. His tweets seem totally out of character compared to the Gary Tan I personally knew. Maybe he has changed? I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Most personalities are carefully curated/maintained. People can sometimes slip when overly stressed.

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> Tan, for his part, apologized over the weekend, noting that his post was a reference to a Tupac Shakur lyric Ah, so if it's a quote, it doesn't matter, because even though you've decided when to use them, they're not "your words" Thanks, going to publish press releases with Cannibal Corpse lyrics going forward.

The fact that it is a quote (which I didn't know) moves it out of the extremely disturbing category and into the extremely cringe & very disappointing category. SF politics is a clown show on all sides - Garry has lost serious credibility that he could play some part in cleaning it up. I think he knows that.

To me, it's extremely disturbing that someone would consider this whole thing as extremely disturbing in the first place.

Whether people in the US are extremely oversenstive to tweets and words, or that the tweets and words have the power to suddenly make regular people hateful and violent - neither of those states are normal.

Either that, or the country really is a few Twitter sparks away from civil war, which again would... not be a normal state of things.

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Isn't this the same guy who is constantly whining about guillotine jokes on the left without reference to specific people being "deadly serious" calls to violence? And he's tweeting a list of 5+ politicians with "die slow motherfuckers"?

I don't think the description of him as a "moderate" is accurate.

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I have a pitch for a new LLM that will read your tweet before you send it and warn you if it is offensive. $1000/month, half off if you’re a CEO.

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Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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As a YC alum who worked with Gary Tan directly, this is… odd. Anyone who knows Gary knows he’s a (relatively) gentle human being. I can’t imagine him hurting a fly. His tweets seem totally out of character compared to the Gary Tan I personally knew. Maybe he has changed? I’m inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

It's more the state of modern social media. Post Elon acquisition, many influential tech figures have discovered that being a provocateur on Twitter/X is more consistently successful at building an audience than genuine insight.

This was the case pre Elon too.

It's human nature. People are social creatures and they love to join some fight as long as they have their own comrades with them.

My wife spent years on Twitter embroiled in a very long running and bitter political / rights issue. She was always thoughtful, insightful etc. She'd spend 10 minutes rewording a single tweet to make sure it got the real point across in a way that wasn't inflammatory, and that had a good chance of being persuasive. With 5k followers, I think her most popular tweets might get a few hundred likes. The one time she got drunk and angry, she got thousands of supportive reactions, and her followers increased by a large % overnight. And that scared her. She saw the way "the crowd" was pushing her. Rewarding her for the smell of blood in the water.

Audience capture is real. Chronically online people with polarised followers will play to their crowd. Inch by inch, day by day, as social creatures, we automatically and subliminally seek approval from our social group. I've seen this type of dynamic push people into the extremes.

My wife got out. First she asked me to block twitter on all of her devices. A month of cold turkey later, she quit for good ,and she's far happier for it.

Re: 'Stupid,' 'shameful:' Tech workers on Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan's rant

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post #193

I thought the US was the land of Free Speech. And yet, when a guy speaks his mind he's burned at the stake. Of what use is that freedom, then? Or do you have to be poor and uninteresting to exercise it? Or only in front of your own mirror? So many paradoxes. If the reference to Biden is the unacceptable one, I see President Biden daily expressing his thoughts on other world leaders, calling them names, saying who mus…

Freedom of speech in the US protects you from government prosecution for speech, not from the criticism of people that don’t agree with your speech.

If the government abstains from prosecution, maybe the people should abstain from the practice too, then.
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