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Damn Small Linux 2024

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Re: Damn Small Linux 2024

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I just checked Wikipedia, and was surprised to see the original DSL only had releases for about 3.5 years.

> Though it may seem comparably ridiculous that 700MB is small in 2024 when DSL was 50MB in 2002

If you go all the way back to 2002, 50 MB for an old computer wasn't that small. I bought a new computer with 192 MB of RAM as late as 2005. My 32-bit, $400 discount laptop from 2009 has 4 GB of RAM, so 700 MB is reasonable.

Re: Damn Small Linux 2024

#12
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I'd put this dillo fork: https://github.com/dillo-browser/dillo On games, sgt-puzzles and bsdgames fit well, among nethack/slashem, DCSS and OFC Frotz too plus a few libre games (Spiritwrak and such). Slashem+BSDGames+3 adventures for Frotz would weight less than 20MB I think. Compressed, about 7. BTW, I'd ditch XMMS for Audacious; a Pentium 3/4 today would be more than enough to run it. BTW Visidata it's huge, use s…

gopherus is a decent, low resource, console-able, gopher client.

Re: Damn Small Linux 2024

#13

> keeping otherwise usable hardware out of landfills while i like this idea in theory, in practice the energy efficiency and lower electricity costs of newer hardware mean that in terms of both cost and environmental impact it would probably be better to recycle the old hardware and buy something new in most cases.

>recycle the old hardware and buy something new in most cases.

Completely agree, other than nobody is willing to recycle the hardware in any environmentally friendly way. So "recycle" pretty much just means "send it to some poor country who is perfectly fine polluting their ecosystem to pull anything valuable from the junk".

Re: Damn Small Linux 2024

#14

> keeping otherwise usable hardware out of landfills while i like this idea in theory, in practice the energy efficiency and lower electricity costs of newer hardware mean that in terms of both cost and environmental impact it would probably be better to recycle the old hardware and buy something new in most cases.

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Re: Damn Small Linux 2024

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I just checked Wikipedia, and was surprised to see the original DSL only had releases for about 3.5 years. > Though it may seem comparably ridiculous that 700MB is small in 2024 when DSL was 50MB in 2002 If you go all the way back to 2002, 50 MB for an old computer wasn't that small. I bought a new computer with 192 MB of RAM as late as 2005. My 32-bit, $400 discount laptop from 2009 has 4 GB of RAM, so 700 MB is rea…

50MB for a pocket OS was perfecly small. Compare it to a 6-7-8 CD release of SuSE, Debian or Mandrake. Or the 700MB Knoppix CD back in the day. You could download DSL in reasonable time.

Re: Damn Small Linux 2024

#17
Holy fucking shit my childhood.

Damn Small Linux was my first introduction to Linux because it was the only thing I could download in ~4 hours on dialup without hogging the phones all day long.

I will have to fire this up and have a damn good time.

Re: Damn Small Linux 2024

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post #12
post #2

I'd put this dillo fork: https://github.com/dillo-browser/dillo On games, sgt-puzzles and bsdgames fit well, among nethack/slashem, DCSS and OFC Frotz too plus a few libre games (Spiritwrak and such). Slashem+BSDGames+3 adventures for Frotz would weight less than 20MB I think. Compressed, about 7. BTW, I'd ditch XMMS for Audacious; a Pentium 3/4 today would be more than enough to run it. BTW Visidata it's huge, use s…

gopherus is a decent, low resource, console-able, gopher client.

sacc too; but felinks provides Gemini.

Re: Damn Small Linux 2024

#19

> keeping otherwise usable hardware out of landfills while i like this idea in theory, in practice the energy efficiency and lower electricity costs of newer hardware mean that in terms of both cost and environmental impact it would probably be better to recycle the old hardware and buy something new in most cases.

Building and shipping new machines requires far more envionmental related costs.

Re: Damn Small Linux 2024

#20

Woah, now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time! It says that it fits on a CD, but how about the other requirements? e.g. how much RAM is needed, and what kind of instruction set does the CPU need to support? is a 386 enough or do you need 486/586/686 level instructions?

I got it running as a VM guest on QEMU+KVM, exposing only a 486 CPU profile with 256 MB RAM, and it was still usable (with terminal, file manager, and some light web browsing). Looking at the system's memory usage though, it appears that going much lower than about 200 MB RAM would probably make it quite difficult to use (at least without relying on swap, which could make it even more miserable depending on the device being used there).
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