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I don't want anything your AI generates

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Re: I don't want anything your AI generates

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Post by fetzu »

copperx wrote: post #86
fetzu wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honesty, Javascript front-end developers are probably more at risk of “being replaced” by AI than designers. This is probably where this sentiment is coming from.

Why Javascript front end developers specifically?

I wouldn’t say it’s “Javascript front-end developers” specifically, but front-end developers in general. Intuitively, I’d say it’s because front-end development sits in the sweet spot between the creative side of the designer (who sets the tone of a website/app through their design) and the technical side/aspects of the back-end. An AI is most likely to understand how to interact with an existing back-end while respecting the “creative constraints” placed by the designer. To use a dumb analogy: if I had to use an AI to help design an airplane, I wouldn’t let it touch the flight control system or generate the movies and music from the in flight entertainment library, but I’d give it the task of making the HMI for the in flight entertainment system. Worst case scenario, it’s going to be .01% less clunky than the existing ones.

Re: I don't want anything your AI generates

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Post by lmm »

> I don't want music recommendations from something that can't appreciate or understand music. Human recommendations will always be better.

Ok but that's not actually true. "AI" music recommendations have been better than human ones for years, IME. AI art might not be better yet, but it's often good enough.

> If you're having AI attend a meeting for you, it probably wasn't that important. If you're having AI write your email, it probably wasn't that important.

100%. No-one actually cares about those meetings or emails. But apparently they're mandatory, so shrug.

Replacing human drudgery with AI is good for everyone. And a lot of meetings, emails, and even illustration work is drudgery. If you think AI can't be original and creative, then original and creative work will be precisely the part that's left over for humans to do, which seems like a win to me.

Re: I don't want anything your AI generates

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Post by 000ooo000 »

NegativeLatency wrote: post #94
laurencei wrote: post #40

> I don't want music recommendations from something that can't appreciate or understand music. Human recommendations will always be better. I find Spotify's "discover weekly" list to be generally pretty good. Sure, there are some songs I dont like, but there are often 3-4 great songs each week that get added to my regularly playlist. Its all good an well to say that human recommendations are better, but I'm not payin…

Spotify (and most other services) actually have a mix of human and algorithimic recommendations in things like discover weekly: https://www.theverge.com/2015/9/30/9416579/spotify-discover-...

I wish I had the citation handy but they also put sponsored content in your 'recommendations' even if you're a paying customer. Rubs me the wrong way.

Re: I don't want anything your AI generates

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Post by godelski »

stolenmerch wrote: post #52

I'm not a fan of this hyper aggressive line-in-the-sand argumentation about AI that pushes it all precariously close to culture war shenanigans. If you don't like a new technology that is perfectly cool and your right to an opinion. Please don't position it so that if I want to use AI I have to defend myself from accusations of exploiting labor and the environment. That is NOT at all clear, settled, or even correct m…

I'm with you, but I think it is a bit more complicated. I think a reason for a lot of pushback is because these systems are being over sold. A lot of tech over promises and under delivers. I'm not sure it is just an AI thing rather than the limit in which you can edge forward the amount of acceptable exaggeration.

It definitely is frustrating that many things are presented as binary. But I think we can only resolve this if we dig a little deeper and try to understand the actual frustration that is being attempted to be communicated. Unfortunately a lot of communication breaks down in a global context as we can't be reliant on the many implicit priors that may be generally shared across different groups. Complaining is also the first step to critiquing, but I think you're right that we should encourage criticisms over complaints, but I think we can attempt to elicit critiques from complaints too, and that we should.

Re: I don't want anything your AI generates

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Post by cowmix »

> If you're having AI write your email, it probably wasn't that important.

"I hope this email finds you well." floods my inbox. Yuck.

I agree with most of that post. However, for me when I give AI tons of context (and follow up input), it helps me write emails better than pre-AI (given the same time and effort). Not putting an email I consider "important" through the AI sausage grinder is (in my case) malpractice.

Re: I don't want anything your AI generates

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Post by ColonelPhantom »

hospitalJail wrote: post #29

>I can't trust the answers it provides or the text it generates. It's not a replacement for search, it simply makes search worse. Why is an AI noob upvoted? When the author makes low tech skill claims, I wonder why this made it to the front page. The person missed the AI train, they decided instead of adapting, they would just Boo it.

I find this kind of dismissal extremely tiring. It's very lazy to wave away criticism of a tool as a skill issue.

On the tin the claims are both true: LLMs do not replace search (it does not link me to any resources), at best it augments it (with services like Phind or Bing combining the two).

Also, search is made worse by SEO spam, which can be churned out more easily with AI, leading to crap like the following: https://web.archive.org/web/20230103091313/https://www.slowi... (which has been edited to be less nonsensical, but remains hilariously out of place). That's not to say that SEO spam wouldn't exist without AI, but this level of carelessness ("a 32 bit wine bottle is a bottle of wine that has been created with 32 bits of data") seems to be new.

Re: I don't want anything your AI generates

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

RolandFlicket wrote: post #28

My boss “writes” policies etc using ChatGPT. They’re generic, overly wordy and say nothing of original thought. I don’t read them and don’t care. When he sends me a link to them in MS Teams I always click the first auto suggested response Teams like “Looks great!” Machine v machine.

There's a rather good SMBC comic (from the same person who wrote "A City on Mars" recently) about that sort of thing and where it leads: https://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3576 Seems more and more prescient by the day.

Re: I don't want anything your AI generates

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Post by stolenmerch »

akira2501 wrote: post #105
stolenmerch wrote: post #52

I'm not a fan of this hyper aggressive line-in-the-sand argumentation about AI that pushes it all precariously close to culture war shenanigans. If you don't like a new technology that is perfectly cool and your right to an opinion. Please don't position it so that if I want to use AI I have to defend myself from accusations of exploiting labor and the environment. That is NOT at all clear, settled, or even correct m…

> Please don't position it so that if I want to use AI I have to defend myself from accusations of exploiting labor and the environment. I don't think this article even remote attempts this claim. The closest it gets is suggesting that if these defenses are too much trouble for you, then perhaps your use case for AI wasn't great in the first place. > but diatribes like this How is this a diatribe? There's nothing bit…

> I don't think this article even remote attempts this claim.

It's in the first sentence, "AI output is fundamentally derivative and exploitative (of content, labor and the environment)."

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