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Re: Apple rejecting applications which use Dropbox

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Post by kennywinker »

batista wrote: post #260
pyre wrote: post #217

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What business are you running that has larger profit margins than 30%?

How about one that you adjust your prices by whatever so that 70% is the old 100%? If your competitors can offer lower prices and still give away 70%, then you're not competitive enough.

You clearly haven't read about the clauses apple put in about payments. You can't charge more in the app via apple than you charge outside the app via whatever other payment system you use.

They've rigged the game.

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Post by ianloic »

starnix17 wrote: post #42

I had a simliar rejection because of my app's Rdio integration. If the user had Rdio installed, my app would open the song in the Rdio native app. If the user didn't have the app installed, my app would open the song on the Rdio web site in MobileSafari. Apple didn't like this since you could purchase an Rdio subscription on that webpage bypassing the IAP and Apple's 30% cut.

FWIW, the Rdio iOS SDK now avoids linking to the Rdio web site, or even talking about the existence of an Rdio web site :(

Re: Apple rejecting applications which use Dropbox

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Post by kennywinker »

gouranga wrote: post #266
kennywinker wrote: post #18

This has gone way too far. The other day I downloaded the Google Play Books app. I started it up, signed in.. and nothing. No prompt to go buy books online, no hint at what the app does... just a blank screen. It's completely scummy. You can buy Apple's iCloud storage upgrade from within the OS, and now you can't even LINK to a place where you could link to a place where if you click the right link you could buy Drop…

You're on their turf - stop complaining. I wouldn't invest in app development ever, precisely due to these sorts of issues.

My complaint is not as a developer, but as a user.

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Post by hyperbovine »

jasonlotito wrote: post #318
hyperbovine wrote: post #295

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Nice one. I couldn't quite put my finger on what this reminded me of, but you nailed it: the Holocaust.

Ahh, the point is missed by the ignorant. I was not, in any way, comparing this at all to the holocaust. That you would think that says volumes about what your opinion means, however.

Sorry, my mistake. I see now that when quoting a famous poem about Nazi purges, you were actually talking about raising tulips and not the Holocaust. Of course, I was not in any way comparing you to the sort of naive moron who would draw parallels between the murder of 6 million people, and a hiccup encountered while installing an iPhone app. That you would think so says volumes about your self-opinion, though.

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Post by gcb »

grhino wrote: post #281
batista wrote: post #260

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How about one that you adjust your prices by whatever so that 70% is the old 100%? If your competitors can offer lower prices and still give away 70%, then you're not competitive enough.

If your competition is the one that you have to give away your 30% to, maybe your competition is rigging the game?

just do like apple does with taxes.

create a subsidiary.

dropbox.com, charges $x for 5GB

idropbox.com, a dropbox company, optionally in the caymans, charges $(1.3 * x) for 5GB and has an app.

Re: Apple rejecting applications which use Dropbox

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Post by premise »

AncientPC wrote: post #70

I don't understand why people think this is new. I created a website that announced the launch of a small mobile app for both iOS and Android platforms. I was told by Apple that my app would not be approved as long as I had links to competitors (i.e. Android) on the web site .

How’s that possible? There’re a lot of (thousands?) multi-platform apps for iOS, Android, Blackberry etc. For instance, Angry Birds has versions for “iPhone/iPad/OS X,” “Nokia Devices,” and “Android (Amazon/Google Play)” on their website: http://shop.angrybirds.com/us/games/mobile-games.html

Needless to say, the full list of platforms Angry Birds runs on is (according to Wikipedia) much bigger.

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Post by arjn »

batista wrote: post #263
ChuckMcM wrote: post #56

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Unfortunately, Google is probably not capable of exploiting these mini-resentments and I don't think anybody else is either. I'd love to hear more about that. This is my reasoning on why I think there is an opportunity there: Lets say (patent issues not withstanding), you created an exact clone of the iPad and iOS and sold it at the same price but without the 30% 'apple tax' on purchases. It seems reasonable to assum…

>Lets say (patent issues not withstanding), you created an exact clone of the iPad and iOS and sold it at the same price but without the 30% 'apple tax' on purchases. What "Apple tax"? Haven't you noticed that competitors have struggled to offer the same prices for their tablets for example? The iPad/iPhone is one of the cheapest products on their market segment. Just consider that when everybody expected the iPad to…

Incorrect on the mostly useless copies part. The Asus Transformer is not a copy and is cheaper than its iPad counterpart. I've been using it since May 2011 and it can do pretty much what the iPad2 can do, and it has an IPS screen to boot.

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Post by CamperBob »

kylebrown wrote: post #316
philbarr wrote: post #268

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That is a fantastic rant about the open market. Do you mind if I use it and claim it as my own someday?

as an alternative to a full-blown rant, just remind people that market fundamentalism died in the '08-'09 superbubble implosion. E.g. the new Dallas Fed report about enhancing "market discipline" and restoring "faith in market capitalism."

What happened in '08-'09 had as much to do with market capitalism as the Stalinist purges had to do with Marxism.

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Post by CamperBob »

philwelch wrote: post #205
Terretta wrote: post #116

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People don't like to talk about this, but MySpace to Facebook was less about developer APIs and more about urbs to suburbs.

If you're implying it was a race and class issue, well, let's just say that hasn't kept anyone away from Twitter. I think it had more to do with the fact that MySpace pages all looked like crap and played shitty music at you automatically when you opened them. MySpace to Facebook was more about user experience, and Facebook's ascendancy was a fait accompli by the time they launched their API.

I think it had more to do with the fact that MySpace pages all looked like crap and played shitty music at you automatically when you opened them.

I think you're both saying exactly the same thing, using different words.

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Post by rimantas »

nkassis wrote: post #86
fufulabs wrote: post #75

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But in this case, the town is not 90% of the geography. Last i heard Google's town is bigger and there is also RIM Town (mass exodus happening there), a new WP7 town (lots of airport signs) and a few others around.

I don't think you need a certain percentage of a market for this to start becoming a antitrust issue. And it could be argued that they have a strong monopoly on Tablets at this time. If this doesn't feel like anticompetitive behaviour, I don't know what does. They are using their rather large position in the smartphone/tablet market to enter another market (in this case storage) and snuff out the competition. And the…

Sorry, but this sounds a bit like "hey, they actually have a tablet worth something, let's punish them for that".
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