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Give AI curiosity, and it will watch TV forever (2018)

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Re: Give AI curiosity, and it will watch TV forever (2018)

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Post by RGamma »

aantix wrote: post #31

This trait must serve us in some capacity. You see this with children and iPads. My kids know 3x what I did when I was their same age. It's as if something can finally fill their bandwidth, keep up with their thoughts, and answer those questions in real-time. No wonder they get angry when it's time to put away the iPad - they're engaged at a high level. Much like when I am programming on a sideproject and my focus is…

Implying watching anything makes you smarter. I've also read and seen so many things, but it's mostly (95%+) gone. The only things I continue to remember are those from where I actively participate(d) in (including in online communities). The collective consumption-heavy posture of online usage can't be healthy...

Though I will grant that some latent knowledge might stick regardless. Active curation and note-taking (e.g. in a personal knowledge base or in a private/public wiki) might also help.

In fact it's this that I would recommend most to kids these days: record and curate the things you do and see. Not only for nostalgia's sake but also so that you can find (and reshare? ;)) stuff again.

Re: Give AI curiosity, and it will watch TV forever (2018)

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Post by baq »

aantix wrote: post #31

This trait must serve us in some capacity. You see this with children and iPads. My kids know 3x what I did when I was their same age. It's as if something can finally fill their bandwidth, keep up with their thoughts, and answer those questions in real-time. No wonder they get angry when it's time to put away the iPad - they're engaged at a high level. Much like when I am programming on a sideproject and my focus is…

> If any Youtube engineers are reading, please give us (the parents) more control!

Unfortunately, this won't happen.

No number go up, no change. Noone will get promoted for this. Not the PM: number won't go up. Not the dev: number won't go up. Neither the director nor the VP: number won't go up.

It's really like opium - until the regulators come in, nothing will change as numbers must go up.

The free market libertarians will say you have free will and should think for yourself, rationally, let the market decide. Well, the market decided it wants to self-destruct.

Re: Give AI curiosity, and it will watch TV forever (2018)

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Post by eimrine »

radium3d wrote: post #32
aantix wrote: post #31

This trait must serve us in some capacity. You see this with children and iPads. My kids know 3x what I did when I was their same age. It's as if something can finally fill their bandwidth, keep up with their thoughts, and answer those questions in real-time. No wonder they get angry when it's time to put away the iPad - they're engaged at a high level. Much like when I am programming on a sideproject and my focus is…

I would also like this for myself. Lol

LOL guys isn't that so hard not to watch dumb or short or news videos from your main account? My recommendations are never game videos, and rarely less than 1 hour videos because guess what? I seldomly watch videos which are less than 1 hour and never watch games.

Re: Give AI curiosity, and it will watch TV forever (2018)

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Post by aantix »

ok123456 wrote: post #40
aantix wrote: post #31

This trait must serve us in some capacity. You see this with children and iPads. My kids know 3x what I did when I was their same age. It's as if something can finally fill their bandwidth, keep up with their thoughts, and answer those questions in real-time. No wonder they get angry when it's time to put away the iPad - they're engaged at a high level. Much like when I am programming on a sideproject and my focus is…

TikTok has this switch. There's a STEM mode in the user settings that will only show you educational content on your algorithmic stream.

I would LOVE this feature for my kids.

Re: Give AI curiosity, and it will watch TV forever (2018)

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Post by itishappy »

aantix wrote: post #31

This trait must serve us in some capacity. You see this with children and iPads. My kids know 3x what I did when I was their same age. It's as if something can finally fill their bandwidth, keep up with their thoughts, and answer those questions in real-time. No wonder they get angry when it's time to put away the iPad - they're engaged at a high level. Much like when I am programming on a sideproject and my focus is…

Have you considered trying a dedicated academic steaming service instead? The incentives align better with what you're seeking, and I'd bet the content does too.

I don't have much experience in this field, but you might look into stuff like the streaming apps for PBS or TED, or even paying for Nebula or Curiosity Stream. If you were really serious about something, you could even look at a learning platform like Khan Academy, Brilliant, or Coursera.

Re: Give AI curiosity, and it will watch TV forever (2018)

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Post by willsmith72 »

baq wrote: post #43
aantix wrote: post #31

This trait must serve us in some capacity. You see this with children and iPads. My kids know 3x what I did when I was their same age. It's as if something can finally fill their bandwidth, keep up with their thoughts, and answer those questions in real-time. No wonder they get angry when it's time to put away the iPad - they're engaged at a high level. Much like when I am programming on a sideproject and my focus is…

> If any Youtube engineers are reading, please give us (the parents) more control! Unfortunately, this won't happen. No number go up, no change. Noone will get promoted for this. Not the PM: number won't go up. Not the dev: number won't go up. Neither the director nor the VP: number won't go up. It's really like opium - until the regulators come in, nothing will change as numbers must go up. The free market libertari…

it will eventually

apple, youtube, google, amazon made their bacon by being user-centric and generating huge value.

now they're busy capturing value

you can only capture for so long without generating

Re: Give AI curiosity, and it will watch TV forever (2018)

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Post by aantix »

aantix wrote: post #31

This trait must serve us in some capacity. You see this with children and iPads. My kids know 3x what I did when I was their same age. It's as if something can finally fill their bandwidth, keep up with their thoughts, and answer those questions in real-time. No wonder they get angry when it's time to put away the iPad - they're engaged at a high level. Much like when I am programming on a sideproject and my focus is…

I actually researched writing a proxy that would intercept and rewrite Youtube's JSON API responses with pre-selected, educational videos. This is how much I hate their recommendation algorithm.

That way, the Youtube app appears to work the same. It's just that those videos that are blacklisted in the recommendation response, e.g. all the videos with the word 'minecraft' in the title, would be replaced with Youtube shorts from Neil deGrasse Tyson.

Intercept the response. Rewrite the and entries for blacklisted videos. Return the rewritten response to the client.

Point my kids's iPads at this proxy.

YouTube's app uses certificate pinning. I would have had to reverse-engineer their certificates in order to properly sign the response.

I stopped at that point in the project.

Re: Give AI curiosity, and it will watch TV forever (2018)

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Post by aquova »

Dxtros wrote: post #38

This reminds me of the murder bot book series by Martha Wells. The main character (an advanced ai robot) started really enjoying human media and even used media as a bargaining chip to work with other bots. One striking moment was when the main character was discussing a rogue and violent robot with a transport bot. “ART said, What does it want? To kill all the humans, I answered. I could feel ART metaphorically clut…

I've been reading through the series this week and this is the first thing that popped into my mind. A series about an AI who doesn't care about its job or its clients, and achieves a level of personal liberation by hacking itself, just so it could download TV shows and watch them when no one was looking.
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