Now Figma can become the de-facto choice for its software category and a merger was proved to be ultimately unnecessary for its survival and was a clear attempt at Adobe trying to buyout their competition because they can't seem to compete. I think overall this is a good thing. Adobe owning Figma isn't a great promise that it would be make Figma better, improve Figma in any way, nor keep Figma on the path of making h…
> a clear attempt at Adobe trying to buyout their competition because they can't seem to compete. You paint this like it's a bad thing, that's why many acquisitions occur.
Adobe gives up on web-design product to rival Figma after deal collapse
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Re: Adobe gives up on web-design product to rival Figma after deal collapse
#22Now Figma can become the de-facto choice for its software category and a merger was proved to be ultimately unnecessary for its survival and was a clear attempt at Adobe trying to buyout their competition because they can't seem to compete. I think overall this is a good thing. Adobe owning Figma isn't a great promise that it would be make Figma better, improve Figma in any way, nor keep Figma on the path of making h…
> a clear attempt at Adobe trying to buyout their competition because they can't seem to compete. You paint this like it's a bad thing, that's why many acquisitions occur.
You paint that like it's a good thing.
Re: Adobe gives up on web-design product to rival Figma after deal collapse
#23Now Figma can become the de-facto choice for its software category and a merger was proved to be ultimately unnecessary for its survival and was a clear attempt at Adobe trying to buyout their competition because they can't seem to compete. I think overall this is a good thing. Adobe owning Figma isn't a great promise that it would be make Figma better, improve Figma in any way, nor keep Figma on the path of making h…
> a clear attempt at Adobe trying to buyout their competition because they can't seem to compete. You paint this like it's a bad thing, that's why many acquisitions occur.
Re: Adobe gives up on web-design product to rival Figma after deal collapse
#24Now Figma can become the de-facto choice for its software category and a merger was proved to be ultimately unnecessary for its survival and was a clear attempt at Adobe trying to buyout their competition because they can't seem to compete. I think overall this is a good thing. Adobe owning Figma isn't a great promise that it would be make Figma better, improve Figma in any way, nor keep Figma on the path of making h…
> a clear attempt at Adobe trying to buyout their competition because they can't seem to compete. You paint this like it's a bad thing, that's why many acquisitions occur.
The only problem is that it ruined my optimism about Figma's leadership and direction without actually changing the status quo at all.
Re: Adobe gives up on web-design product to rival Figma after deal collapse
#25Now Figma can become the de-facto choice for its software category and a merger was proved to be ultimately unnecessary for its survival and was a clear attempt at Adobe trying to buyout their competition because they can't seem to compete. I think overall this is a good thing. Adobe owning Figma isn't a great promise that it would be make Figma better, improve Figma in any way, nor keep Figma on the path of making h…
> a clear attempt at Adobe trying to buyout their competition because they can't seem to compete. You paint this like it's a bad thing, that's why many acquisitions occur.
Re: Adobe gives up on web-design product to rival Figma after deal collapse
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Was this the plan all along? 1B for all that due diligence information seems cheap, i imagine there are a couple of teams rushing to implement at Adobe right now.
This article is about Adobe getting out of this business. I'd think if they were "rushing to implement" they'd keep the existing product around and either integrate things into it or wait to kill it until they have a replacement. Also, while it's not perfect, there tends to be a fair amount of firewalling around that sort of due diligence to keep an acquirer from just ripping everything off with inside information ga…
That's an enormous leap from, "We have no plans to further invest in it". It's more likely that they're going to create a new, Sensei-based solution in this category instead of creating yet another Figma-/Sketch-type solution.
Re: Adobe gives up on web-design product to rival Figma after deal collapse
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google Video was killed after the YouTube acquisition and YT flourished under Google.
YouTube was bought mainly because Google Video was failing as a platform. About the only thing it ever offered over YouTube were longform lectures and presentations. Combining the two platforms (e.g. allowing longer videos but using YouTube's social interface) just made YouTube better.
So they ended up with the YouTube frontend and mostly Google Video backend?
Re: Adobe gives up on web-design product to rival Figma after deal collapse
#29Now Figma can become the de-facto choice for its software category and a merger was proved to be ultimately unnecessary for its survival and was a clear attempt at Adobe trying to buyout their competition because they can't seem to compete. I think overall this is a good thing. Adobe owning Figma isn't a great promise that it would be make Figma better, improve Figma in any way, nor keep Figma on the path of making h…
It’s pretty clear Figma in 5-10 years could make photo and video editing products that outperform Adobe and Adobe can’t even make one web product as good as Fireworks was that they killed so yeah no Figma has no need for Adobe.
Figma has an outstanding engineering team you can tell just by using the app, Adobes dev team it’s questionable how much of Photoshop and AE they even understand how it works as they so rarely try and fix any of it and when they do they tend to break something.
Kinda feel the Photoshop and AE codebases are probably like an ancient untranslated artifact to their current dev team.
Re: Adobe gives up on web-design product to rival Figma after deal collapse
#30Killing Adobe XD because they couldn't buy Figma for $20 billion means to me that they would never have been a good owner for Figma. XD may have not had as many features as Figma, but it was still a decent program and could have been a very good competitor to Figma for far less than the cost of buying out that company. The buy-in of Adobe's subscription model was a compelling reason for my employers to provide only X…
This isn't the first time Adobe has taken a decent app w/ potential and run it into the ground: Dreamweaver did many things, not all of them well, but it was never actively terrible. Over time, its functionality got split out into more apps that didn't actually require people to write web code - a disappointment that shouldn't surprise as Adobe's heart was still w/ print production and never really committed to the d…
Adobe never understood this and tried to push web design into PS and AI then killed FW.