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Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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I wonder if that is good news. You can look at it either as they slowed how much money they pour into the moonshots incinerator, or they stopped investing in potential unicorn lines of business.

What are some promising Google moonshots apart from Waymo?

Drone delivery: https://wing.com/

Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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Well, if total average costs per employee for G would be very roughly 1 million, there you have it. I think it may be half of that if at all, but it impacts the increased revenue significantly in any case.

Costs do not impact revenue only profits.

I agree with the sentiment, but costs do impact revenue when those costs represent an investment in something that can be used to increase revenue, like employees.

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This caught my eye, total employees - 2022: 190,234 - 2023: 182,502 Total increase in revenue of 10 billion. Not sure what conclusion to draw from this, but being a software engineer I found employment count interesting. Though 5% change in head count seems hardly major.

I guess a significant number of employees are just working really hard on things that don't matter. When every single thing that needs working on is already being worked on, a lot of people are going to be doing busy work. There was a post by Stevie Yeggie where he talked about working at google. he looked really hard to find a new project to lead but absolutely everything was already being worked on, he found. event…

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Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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This caught my eye, total employees - 2022: 190,234 - 2023: 182,502 Total increase in revenue of 10 billion. Not sure what conclusion to draw from this, but being a software engineer I found employment count interesting. Though 5% change in head count seems hardly major.

Clearly, those 8000 employees were producing -$10,000,000,000 per year.

Math checks out. Imagine what happens when they lay off 800k!

Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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Google Cloud made $864M in profit in a single quarter, more than ever before. Google Bets lost $86 3 M in the same period, much less than ever before.

Does that mean we'll stop seeing all the alarmist posts about how one should never build on GCP?

Did you know the IBM cloud is the biggest in the world?

Public companies can structure their business however they prefer. If the story needs to be that Cloud is growing and profitable on a numbers sheet, you need no more than the finance geeks to make it happen.

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Good luck finding useful projects for 180k people. That's just a ridiculous amount of people and projects.

There are more than just SWE's employed at google. Custodial, food service, administration, operations, HR, etc...

A lot of those are going to be contractors employed by agencies.

Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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Google Cloud made $864M in profit in a single quarter, more than ever before. Google Bets lost $86 3 M in the same period, much less than ever before.

Thomas Kurian is awesome - trained by Larry Ellison no doubt :).

"Kurian joined Oracle in 1996, initially holding various product management and development positions. His first executive role was as Vice President of Oracle's e-Business division."

Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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This caught my eye, total employees - 2022: 190,234 - 2023: 182,502 Total increase in revenue of 10 billion. Not sure what conclusion to draw from this, but being a software engineer I found employment count interesting. Though 5% change in head count seems hardly major.

Clearly, those 8000 employees were producing -$10,000,000,000 per year.

A Google SWE costs the company around $750k average, fully loaded cost. So if those were all SWEs, $6B/yr isn't an unreasonable estimate.

Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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Summary from the release for Q4: - Revenue increased from $76B to $86B (13% increase) - Operating income increased $18.1B to $23.7B - Net income increased $13.6B to $20.7B - Diluted EPS increased $1.05 to $1.64

Okay so why is GOOG -4% in after hours this time? :)

The absolute performance isn't very important for the stock price. What matters way more is the performance vis-a-vis market expectations. So in this case, the market was expecting something better (or there was some other guidance in the report that spooked investors).

Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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This caught my eye, total employees - 2022: 190,234 - 2023: 182,502 Total increase in revenue of 10 billion. Not sure what conclusion to draw from this, but being a software engineer I found employment count interesting. Though 5% change in head count seems hardly major.

I think this is just unwinding from overhiring during the pandemic. - 2021: 156,500

2021: Yay! Crazy hiring!

2023: What?!?! Laying off a fraction of recent hires? The world is ending!!

Obviously this sucks for the laid-off, but…you don’t need a very long memory to put this in perspective.

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