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Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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This caught my eye, total employees - 2022: 190,234 - 2023: 182,502 Total increase in revenue of 10 billion. Not sure what conclusion to draw from this, but being a software engineer I found employment count interesting. Though 5% change in head count seems hardly major.

I think this is just unwinding from overhiring during the pandemic.

- 2021: 156,500

Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they have proved that it's a incinerator at this point.

Waymo _might_ be the sole survivor here... they are ABSOLUTELY trying their damndest with it. It's remarkable to not go a single day without seeing a driverless Waymo doing its thing. (I live in Central Phoenix, they're _everywhere_.) The core concept is being proven pretty well, in markets with good weather and good roads at least... whether they can achieve some sort of critical mass that allows them to recoup any…

I've heard each Jag costs ~$250k fully loaded... that's a lot of ~$14-on-average trips before breakeven

My math says that's about 25 trips per day to break even in two years (modulo maintenance costs).

Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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Summary from the release for Q4: - Revenue increased from $76B to $86B (13% increase) - Operating income increased $18.1B to $23.7B - Net income increased $13.6B to $20.7B - Diluted EPS increased $1.05 to $1.64

Okay so why is GOOG -4% in after hours this time? :)

In the 18 years i've been at GOOG, what direction the stock moves post-earnings is always random, and then talking heads try to post-facto rationalize it.

I've seen Google blow away earnings and all expectations and be down 10%, and completely miss expectations and pop up 5%.

Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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I guess a significant number of employees are just working really hard on things that don't matter. When every single thing that needs working on is already being worked on, a lot of people are going to be doing busy work. There was a post by Stevie Yeggie where he talked about working at google. he looked really hard to find a new project to lead but absolutely everything was already being worked on, he found. event…

But isn't that just bad management / prioritization? Isn't the solution to just shuffle people to more useful projects instead of firing them? Especially at a company that hires general engineers who can work on any project, and also at a company that has a lot of internal tooling which makes ramping up new engineers slow and tedious. They'll probably grow back to 190k within a few months, but those 8k new hires will…

the problem is there's not enough high value projects to do. to much labor, too many employees and too much funding relative to the number of projects that actually bring value.

Because all the high value stuff(high ROI stuff) is already done or already being worked on. all that's left is low ROI projects which take up huge amounts of time but bring little value. employees and managers know they generate little value, so they end up doing more of them to compensate which makes the problem even worse as there's less and less high value stuff to do.

there's just too few opportunities, hence the need to expand into new industries.

Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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Google Cloud made $864M in profit in a single quarter, more than ever before. Google Bets lost $86 3 M in the same period, much less than ever before.

$864 million is really a nothingburger for Google or any company Google’s size compared to Azure or AWS.

Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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Google Cloud made $864M in profit in a single quarter, more than ever before. Google Bets lost $86 3 M in the same period, much less than ever before.

Thomas Kurian is awesome - trained by Larry Ellison no doubt :).

Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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Summary from the release for Q4: - Revenue increased from $76B to $86B (13% increase) - Operating income increased $18.1B to $23.7B - Net income increased $13.6B to $20.7B - Diluted EPS increased $1.05 to $1.64

Okay so why is GOOG -4% in after hours this time? :)

Because expectations were higher?

Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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Summary from the release for Q4: - Revenue increased from $76B to $86B (13% increase) - Operating income increased $18.1B to $23.7B - Net income increased $13.6B to $20.7B - Diluted EPS increased $1.05 to $1.64

Okay so why is GOOG -4% in after hours this time? :)

Typically, that happens when forward guidance given on the call does not meet expected forward guidance.

Re: Google Announces Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Results [pdf]

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From page 1: The following table summarizes our consolidated financial results for the quarters and years ended December 31, 2022 and 2023 (in millions, except for per share information and percentages

But the numbers appear to be billion (no way revunue 80mil) in the following table? what am i missing

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