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Re: Covid Test Data Breach: 1.3M Patient Records Exposed Online

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Post by systems_glitch »

shiandow wrote: post #25
manzanarama wrote: post #6

I feel frequent data leaks, credit card number leaks, difficulty in un-subscribing or stopping payments after subscribing, etc... makes me appreciate and want to use consolidated sign in / subscription management / payment management options almost exclusively.

That doesn't do much to protect you against a website storing government mandated passport information. The only protection there would be if authorities stop demanding that everyone takes copies of personal IDs.

Yeah, when did that become acceptable?! I've had a bunch of sites request a photo or scan of my state-issued driver's license, like that's just OK to ask people to send to them.

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Post by Manfred »

RockRobotRock wrote: post #61
TriangleEdge wrote: post #27

> ... a non-password protected database that contained nearly 1.3 million records ... Breach is not the word I would use here.

if you forgot to lock your front door, and your TV was gone, does that count as burglary?

Acquiring something that isn't your property is not legal in most countries. It's not really relevant if it's behind a door.

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Post by hiccuphippo »

manzanarama wrote: post #6

I feel frequent data leaks, credit card number leaks, difficulty in un-subscribing or stopping payments after subscribing, etc... makes me appreciate and want to use consolidated sign in / subscription management / payment management options almost exclusively.

Yes. Why wait to get p0wn3d one account at a time when they can p0wn all your accounts at once.

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Post by TheCapn »

Manfred wrote: post #82
RockRobotRock wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if you forgot to lock your front door, and your TV was gone, does that count as burglary?

Acquiring something that isn't your property is not legal in most countries. It's not really relevant if it's behind a door.

And accessing a computer system without proper authorization is often illegal. So I'm not sure what point you're making.

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Post by pizzafeelsright »

TheCapn wrote: post #84
Manfred wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Acquiring something that isn't your property is not legal in most countries. It's not really relevant if it's behind a door.

And accessing a computer system without proper authorization is often illegal. So I'm not sure what point you're making.

It's negligent on the api side.

Re: Covid Test Data Breach: 1.3M Patient Records Exposed Online

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Post by radicalbyte »

YeBanKo wrote: post #80
radicalbyte wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was working for the NL government on COVID stuff and the only thing I can say is that it's a shame I'm under NDA. It changed my view of the tech industry and I feel silly for calling colleagues in the past out for what I consider inadequate practices. As all were far above the mean.

I am surprised there isn’t some law in NL that would allow you to expose it either to the public or maybe at least to MPs and not be bound by NDA.

Oh our apps were fantastic - an awesome example of what happens when you have top tier technical management combined with skilled technical people.

Only during the process you get exposure to a lot of other things (and a lot of that is not government).

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Post by radicalbyte »

gattilorenz wrote: post #57
radicalbyte wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was working for the NL government on COVID stuff and the only thing I can say is that it's a shame I'm under NDA. It changed my view of the tech industry and I feel silly for calling colleagues in the past out for what I consider inadequate practices. As all were far above the mean.

Weren’t CoronaCheck and CoronaMelder open source? I would have assumed plenty of people would audit them, but I don’t recall seeing any negative news (jokes on their availability aside)

Yeah they're open source and they're great (I worked on both). We put a lot of effort into making them into excellent examples.

My original post is referring to other things outside of the Ministry.. My role was deep and broad so I got to see a lot.

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Post by jjgreen »

stonogo wrote: post #77
tlivolsi wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Generally, the use of the word 'coerced' involves threat of force, which approximately zero employers invoked Yes. Forcing someone to choose between losing their job or undergoing unusual and routine mandatory, invasive medical procedures, which can lead to consequences like those mentioned in the above article, constitutes coercion.

That's not the commonly-accepted interpretation of coercion. Under this definition, "forcing" someone to choose between losing their job and doing the work they were hired to do also constitutes coercion. Losing your job because you declined to comply with company policy does not constitute violence. Insisting that your modified definition is the correct one does not advance the discourse in a productive manner.

I don't think that coercion implies violence or the threat of violence. There are other ways of coercing.

Re: Covid Test Data Breach: 1.3M Patient Records Exposed Online

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Post by worksonmine »

anonymouskimmer wrote: post #48
worksonmine wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd prefer to just move on without mentioning or discussing the mass hysteria we all saw happen? People were literally locked in camps and we're supposed to just forget about it? I don't care if it takes 5, 10 or 20 years. Heads have to roll. We were lied to and ridiculed by the people that are supposed to protect us, and they're getting away with it. Your straw-man doesn't make it go away.

There wasn't enough "hysteria" (that is to say, rational precautions being taken) in my mind. Medical personnel are still so jaded from their experience that we get periodic articles about people quitting the field from burnout. > People were literally locked in camps China does this all the time for a variety of purposes. I really haven't heard about other countries doing this, have you?

> I really haven't heard about other countries doing this, have you?

Australia had a manhunt over 3 teenagers who escaped the quarantine camp which made international news. I think it even made the front page here. There were plenty of videos from those places back then, you should look at them very scary stuff. Over what is essentially a flu, which we knew from the data at the time. Why don't we take the same precautions with the flu? Kills as much, and the same people, what gives?

I also remember CNN not touching the lab-leak "because Trump" and with a straight face they claim it's his fault they're not doing their jobs and getting to the truth.

I remember press conferences telling vaccinated people not to hug their unvaccinated loved ones. Why not when it's 100%, 95%, 90%, kind of%, maybe% effective?

Nothing rational about it, and there's a reason it just disappeared almost overnight. Just POFF and it was gone, no longer an issue. Let's move on, Ukraine is at war now. Oh right sorry, the spring-, summer-, no counteroffensive didn't go as planned. Now Israel, Israel is what we care about. We always wanted a peace treaty in Ukraine. It's good that we split up Ukraine between Russia, Romania and Hungary, now NATOs borders are expanding, which was always the goal.

Re: Covid Test Data Breach: 1.3M Patient Records Exposed Online

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Post by zooq_ai »

VadimPR wrote: post #69

I've gotten myself tested by a lab in Amsterdam a few times. What do I do now? I'm in the industry and even I don't have an actionable course to take.

What should you do? Thank your lucky stars that you live such a privileged life that you can feel outraged about things that absolutely don't matter
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