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Why flying insects gather at artificial light

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Re: Why flying insects gather at artificial light

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I have a feeling the stars are used by insects to navigate in pitch dark environments. And the lack of stars may be causing a large decline in insect population.

Making a road trip in the light polluted northeast america, I was looking for stars in the darkest of forested of environments, and I could not find any stars anywhere. I am not sure if the clouds were there. But I realize I have not seen stars in a long time.

Re: Why flying insects gather at artificial light

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So one could optimize an outdoor light location design to reduce insects? Like for example an outdoor dining terrace?

In my experience... kind of. Light isn't the only thing they're attracted to so you'd have to optimize distance and cover different variables for different bugs.

One fun thing you can do is relocate small swarms of bugs with a torch to another light source. So if you're being pestered, turn on a torch... and slowly walk the bugs to a different light source (a distant lamp for example). Then turn off the torch and walk back to where you were. The light will keep them there.

Re: Why flying insects gather at artificial light

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post #7

Fascinating that it has nothing to do with desire, which has tended to be our go-to as humans stretching back in particular to mythology and even antiquity (eg Aristotle IIRC: “things fall back to the ground because they have a desire to do so”)

You could still see it as a desire that is being highjacked by our artificial lights. It's an unintentionally wire heading, where our desire for light defeats the insects desire to trust it's 'instruments'.

Re: Why flying insects gather at artificial light

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So one could optimize an outdoor light location design to reduce insects? Like for example an outdoor dining terrace?

Still seems a bit tricky unless you have a ton of land?

>Only one experiment that we know of has tracked moth trajectories to lights over long distances, and found only 2 of 50 individuals released 85 m from a light source ended their flight their flight there

I realize this is a small sample, but seems to suggest that if you placed a lamp in a field that 4% of all bugs within a ~football field in every direction would end up near it. I feel like that may mean placing a lamp 10 feet from where you are going to eat (or whatever) may actually attract more insects to that general area.

But I'm having trouble understanding some of their methods

Re: Why flying insects gather at artificial light

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So one could optimize an outdoor light location design to reduce insects? Like for example an outdoor dining terrace?

In my experience... kind of. Light isn't the only thing they're attracted to so you'd have to optimize distance and cover different variables for different bugs. One fun thing you can do is relocate small swarms of bugs with a torch to another light source. So if you're being pestered, turn on a torch... and slowly walk the bugs to a different light source (a distant lamp for example). Then turn off the torch and wal…

Would or could that be automated? We are hounded from late spring to the fall by all kinds of flying nasties at our front porch. Some led string that moved them all away would be awesome!

Re: Why flying insects gather at artificial light

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I have a feeling the stars are used by insects to navigate in pitch dark environments. And the lack of stars may be causing a large decline in insect population. Making a road trip in the light polluted northeast america, I was looking for stars in the darkest of forested of environments, and I could not find any stars anywhere. I am not sure if the clouds were there. But I realize I have not seen stars in a long tim…

I hope you get the opportunity to see them soon. I live in the south and I enjoy them, although the "seeing" (astronomy term) is poor here due to the jet stream.

Re: Why flying insects gather at artificial light

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So one could optimize an outdoor light location design to reduce insects? Like for example an outdoor dining terrace?

I’m not sure if there’s interesting optimization to do. Simply: bugs are attracted to light, light=more bugs, no light=fewer bugs. Motion detectors, for example, can make it so that the light is only temporary and you don’t get those moth parties.

Re: Why flying insects gather at artificial light

#29

So am I understanding correctly that this confirms the common perception they cited: > Insects use the moon as a celestial compass cue to navigate, and mistakenly use artificial light sources instead

I don't think it confirms that. It seems to be one of the popular theories they investigated. Later they say -

"In both field and lab conditions, insects rarely head directly towards, but consistently fly orthogonal to the light source. This refutes the fundamental premise of an escape response."

"An insect should keep a light source at a fixed visual location for maintaining its heading. Switching light position (Supplementary Fig. 5) shows that insects readily hold the light source on either side of the body."

It makes sense to me. Imagine you were an insect and you would use the moon for navigation. Would you really be flying directly towards moon? No, right? Then how could someone think that insects flying directly towards artificial light source is the basis for the theory that insects use moon as navigational aid?

Re: Why flying insects gather at artificial light

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So one could optimize an outdoor light location design to reduce insects? Like for example an outdoor dining terrace?

I’m not sure if there’s interesting optimization to do. Simply: bugs are attracted to light, light=more bugs, no light=fewer bugs. Motion detectors, for example, can make it so that the light is only temporary and you don’t get those moth parties.

bugs are attracted to light

Isn't the takeaway from this study that they aren't really, but rather that once they happen to come close to it they cannot get away from it anymore?

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