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Alzheimer’s cases tied to no-longer-used medical procedure

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New prion diseases are being found in other animals and might evolve to enter humans. There is a deer version being watched - not yet found in people, AFAWK? https://www.cdc.gov/prions/cwd/index.html There have been many cases of assorted Human Papilloma viruses (HPV) transmitted by kissing as well as assorted variances of oral sex. Recent vaccines are very effective. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/hpv/public/index…

What do these two things have to do with each other?

Not much, deer prion wasting disease is forced shape-fold mimicry and HPV is DNA insertions affecting repressed cancer causing genes having increased expression. I referenced it, but it does not really fit in.

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I am not a vegan, but I eat a lot of vegetables, most vegetables, if prepared correctly are delicious, there are a lot of traditional dishes in every cuisine in the world that take absolutely no animal products on their preparation and have a wonderful taste and aroma. I see no reason to eat those franken-foods just because you're a vegan, a lot of them have strange additives to make them taste and look like animal s…

Aquafaba is a completely natural vegan egg substitute used in baking. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquafaba

I’ve used it with amazing success as a non vegan in both chocolate chip cookies and pancakes

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There's a human prion disease, kuru, which was caused by the practice of funerary cannibalism - where family would ritually consume parts of their deceased relatives' bodies. The moral of the story seems to be, don't eat brains.

Which is rather unfortunate. I no longer eat meat, but when I was younger I considered the brains as the tastiest part of an animal, when properly prepared and cooked. It is said that in USA eating organs is not very popular, so it is likely that many have never experienced well cooked brains, to know what they are missing. There exists a hypothesis that is rather plausible, that breaking bones and eating their conte…

Brains, cooked contains 210 calories per 140 g serving. This serving contains 15 g of fat, 16 g of protein and 2.1 g of carbohydrate. The latter is 0 g sugar and 0 g of dietary fiber, the rest is complex carbohydrate. Brains, cooked contains 3.3 g of saturated fat and 4304 mg of cholesterol per serving.

If you do not have risk factors for heart disease, you should limit your cholesterol intake to no more than 300 milligrams a day.

1000% your rda of cholesterol in a single serving!

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FWIW, ChatGPT 3.5 says: "The development of a new food allergy, such as an allergy to eggs, as a direct result of a blood transfusion is extremely rare and not a well-documented phenomenon. Food allergies are typically triggered by exposure to specific allergenic proteins found in foods, and blood transfusions do not typically involve the introduction of food proteins."

ChatGPT 3.5 is known to make mistakes, hallucinate, and not care about the factuality of its responses. Given this, a comment which does nothing but quote chatGPT 3.5 verbatim can do more harm than not commenting at all, especially on health matters, where such qualities can constitute outright recklessness. If you want to share your own thoughts, though, I know I'd welcome them. At least humans have a greater than 0…

Dunno but it seems not unheard of see eg. Peanut and fish allergy due to platelet transfusion in a child https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4562830/

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That’s nuts. Seems like researchers should look really closely at weird side effects of blood transfusions since these are effectively “natural experiments” that would be impossible or unethical to run normally.

As someone who has been deliberately used at a young age by a doctor for a medical experiment, I can tell you this is how human experiments are done these days. Take someone with condition X which is life threatening, and suddenly you can do all your unethical stuff without having to be afraid of consequences. You just have to crank up the severity and you suddenly are free to do whatever you want.

Can you sue?

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Afaict, this is not an entirely new finding. For example, this page ( https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-07771-6 ) references a 2018 article about the issue of Alzheimer's being transmitted (or rather "seeded") through growth hormone extracted from cadavers. Perhaps the new article provides additional evidence or perhaps the other article only suspected a casual link and this one proves that there is one. I h…

Prions are exactly the tiny, hard to detect things that could make Alzheimers transmissible. There are likely to remain many questions to resolve, but this sure suggests a line of inquiry: Is Alzheimer's one distinct disease? Can a prion be isolated as the cause? Can a diagnostic test be designed that detects this prion? Etc.

There is no reason to assume this is a matter of proteins.

It could just as easily be viral or bacterial infection. Classically, people always just assumed that brains had no such infections. Until somebody checked, and they turn out to be very common.

But they still don't look for infections in Alzheimer's patients' brains, probably because it would make them seem negligent. (Which they are.)

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> I wonder what other stuff is being unwittingly transferred during standard blood transfusions. Back in the early 1990s my wife worked in epidemiology studies at the national blood agency in our country. There was a lot of work to be done since at the time being a hemophiliac and receiving blood products meant a good chance of dying from AIDS or non-A non-B hepatitis (now known as Hep C). The agency did not test eac…

If you want to read more about this history in the US, I cannot recommend And the Band Played On highly enough. The book deals with the early history of the HIV/AIDS epidemic and touches on the issues related to blood donations and transfusions given the technical limitations at the time. It's also a crushingly depressing book.

Yeah, the blood bank companies end up looking really evil in that. If you were a hemophiliac in the early 80s, you were playing Russian roulette constantly.

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New prion diseases are being found in other animals and might evolve to enter humans. There is a deer version being watched - not yet found in people, AFAWK? https://www.cdc.gov/prions/cwd/index.html There have been many cases of assorted Human Papilloma viruses (HPV) transmitted by kissing as well as assorted variances of oral sex. Recent vaccines are very effective. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/hpv/public/index…

Do you mean HSV? I have seen articles implicating that virus but it's the first time I've heard of a HPV association.

different to HPV. More on HSV https://www.healthline.com/health/herpes-simplex#causes

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"w/" is an abbreviation for "with". "w/ mice" should be read as "with mice".

The savings of just two characters does not worth the effort and mental pause to decode it

It's a great abbreviation for handwriting, though. It also meshes really well with w/o.
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