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How to do things if you're not that smart and don't have any talent

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Re: How to do things if you're not that smart and don't have any talent

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The article made me think of General Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord's officer classification: "I distinguish four types. There are clever, hardworking, stupid, and lazy officers. Usually two characteristics are combined. Some are clever and hardworking; their place is the General Staff. The next ones are stupid and lazy; they make up 90 percent of every army and are suited to routine duties. Anyone who is both clever an…

Reminds of the Gervais Principle

Re: How to do things if you're not that smart and don't have any talent

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PSA: take a look at CDC's symptoms for ADHD: https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/adhd/diagnosis.html No motivation to start cool new projects is not among them... Actually, reading all those symptoms really puts into the light the 'disorder' part in the ADHD. And here's a philosophical question to ponder: should we change[1] to fit society's expectations or should society adjust itself to our needs? Should we take drugs so th…

I don't care about society's expectations. I just want a fulfilling life. My procrastination and lack of motivation is a detriment. If microdosing amphetamine will get me there, I'm all for it.

Maybe this is a throwaway remark, but FYI there is some evidence that microdosing amphetamine and possibly some other stimulants is more dangerous than a normal dose, in that it can have permanent undesirable effects:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stims/comments/3mbp3n/be_very_caref...

Re: How to do things if you're not that smart and don't have any talent

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From my experience in the tech industry I can say with utmost confidence that "not smart"/"talentless" people who are determined and hard-working lead to significantly better real world results than geniuses who are lazy, unmotivated or overall not action oriented. The vast majority of problems at any company are easy and don't need any big technological breakthroughs to solve. They are instead held back by (1) lack…

> (1) lack of effort or (2) lack of organization. (3) lack of reward I say the former 2 is caused by 3. Why would anyone put in over-time to solve a problem, if they dont know how well they'd get rewarded by it? It's why small/founder owned startups get more done with less, because they know themselves how much reward they'd get when putting in the hard yards.

Small teams get more done with less because communication overhead is low and agency is high in each individual.

Big teams tend to struggle because people don’t know exactly what to do to move the whole shambling enterprise forward. It’s less about effort and more about coordination. Aside from the specific IC skills present, some understanding of the social dynamics and systemic outcomes of the teams ways of working needs to be sprinkled throughout the team to keep things on track. People tend to want to draw a box around their role so they have clarity in their work, but problems don’t conform to these boundaries, and often the hardest thing is framing challenges in the right way so that the team can make progress and avoid devolving into finger pointing or learned helplessness. Forget rewards for a second, just recognizing small actions and statements that have huge net negative impact on a team can be surprisingly difficult at scale.

Re: How to do things if you're not that smart and don't have any talent

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Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not: nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not: the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. -- Ronald Reagan

I am not sure that quote is attributed to Ronald Reagan It’s by Calvin Coolidge https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/2749-nothing-in-this-world-...

Though if we persistently assert that it is attributable to Reagan.......

Re: How to do things if you're not that smart and don't have any talent

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What about people who seem to be able to do things on their own but when they ask for help they turn totally stupid?

Like I have a guy in my company who seems to handle some stuff well, but obviously for things where he lacks knowledge would often seek help. And then if you have him in a videocall, telling him how you think you would do he just turn into a robot that just type what you ask him to do with no sign of understanding what he is doing, like he put himself in cruise control mode.

Re: How to do things if you're not that smart and don't have any talent

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PSA for people that believe they are somewhat smart, have cool ideas yet seemingly no power whatsoever to actually work on them. If you believe you are chronically lazy and feel it is causing issues in your life. If you feel you are living at 10% your true potential: Get tested for ADHD. If that is your problem, know that the chemical fix for it is extremely effective. It's taken me 30+ years of self-hate, a suggesti…

PSA: take a look at CDC's symptoms for ADHD: https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/adhd/diagnosis.html No motivation to start cool new projects is not among them... Actually, reading all those symptoms really puts into the light the 'disorder' part in the ADHD. And here's a philosophical question to ponder: should we change[1] to fit society's expectations or should society adjust itself to our needs? Should we take drugs so th…

I agree that the over-emphasis on medication as the only treatment for ADHD can be damaging. On the other hand, the jump to "I don't need to change" overlooks a very depressing reality: a lifetime of being told you're inadequate because you lack the focus to be reliable in school, work, or life is definitely impacting your psyche on a daily basis.

The people I know who have ADHD and are doing fine were diagnosed at a very young age and were medicated or otherwise built strong coping skills. They don't have any of the emotional baggage. I think it's important to think of ADHD not just as an executive function disorder but as the lifetime of trauma that accrues when, like you said, society's expectations don't line up with what you're capable of delivering without additional support.

The more we overlook the emotional/psychological aspect of ADHD, the more people are going to continue to suffer, and meds might help many people reach a place where they can work through those feelings, but it's just a tool.

Re: How to do things if you're not that smart and don't have any talent

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In my humble opinion, it actually requires a lot of intelligence to do really stupid things...

reminds me of the saying that every year, the intelligence threshold needed to end the world drops a bit more - cannot for the life of me find it again...

Found it!

Moore's Law of Mad Science: "Every 18 months, the minimum IQ to destroy the world drops by one point." - said by Eliezer Yudkowsky at the At Singularity Summit 2007.

youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEt1Wfl1jvo&t=1230s&ab_chann...

Re: How to do things if you're not that smart and don't have any talent

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I see where you're coming from, but comments like this are why it's taken me 30 years to understand there was something not exactly right with me. It doesn't help anyone because ADHD is something no one has completely understood, especially those that do not have it, and keep muddying the waters at any chance they get. In my experience , if it has any value, ADHD is also lack of motivation to start new cool projects…

I just accepted never finishing anything I guess? I still enjoy the starting, and the never finishing part mostly comes from not wanting to do tedious work. I do find that as I get older the point where the work grows tedious increases. I’ve spent years on a project, and while not finished it’s certainly usable.

I didn't exactly mean getting bored after a year. I mean losing the motivation after one day.

I have never stuck to a single side project for more than a week until my diagnosis, however small.

Re: How to do things if you're not that smart and don't have any talent

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I don't care about society's expectations. I just want a fulfilling life. My procrastination and lack of motivation is a detriment. If microdosing amphetamine will get me there, I'm all for it.

Maybe this is a throwaway remark, but FYI there is some evidence that microdosing amphetamine and possibly some other stimulants is more dangerous than a normal dose , in that it can have permanent undesirable effects: https://www.reddit.com/r/Stims/comments/3mbp3n/be_very_caref...

This has no bearing in reality. Furthermore, the others in this thread are referring to therapeutic doses of amphetamine, not microdosing literally.

The level of nonsense perpetuated on that site based on rat studies is absurd.

Re: How to do things if you're not that smart and don't have any talent

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> plenty of new project folders, draft blog posts, plans written down, database schemas, etc - but no shipped results. This is the main issue for me. Starting a project is easy, working on it is the issue! You've done the fun parts. Isn't that enough to hit a good ratio of satisfaction-to-time-consumed ?

Unfortunately satisfaction-to-time-consumed doesn't pay any bills or fill the cupboards with food In the ideal world aye absolutely, in this reality the time was wasted

Not to quibble, but let's face it then, that GitHub (et al.) is chock full of evidence of time wasted. False starts galore.
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