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Re: Apple rejecting applications which use Dropbox

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What business are you running that has larger profit margins than 30%?

How about one that you adjust your prices by whatever so that 70% is the old 100%? If your competitors can offer lower prices and still give away 70%, then you're not competitive enough.

If your competition is the one that you have to give away your 30% to, maybe your competition is rigging the game?

Re: Apple rejecting applications which use Dropbox

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The sudden rejection of dropbox apps is blamed on 'bad user experience' by Apple, most of us know that its due to iCloud . So, in future if apple makes a games or buys a game company expect your games to be rejected from the app store as they 'are bad user experience' for IOS users or third party games are just not interesting enough. Don't let someone else make your choices , make it yourself.

> The sudden rejection of dropbox apps is blamed on 'bad user experience' by Apple, most of us know that its due to iCloud .

What? No. Did you read the linked forum thread, at all? It's due to the presence of a "Sign up with Dropbox" link in new versions of the SDK.

Re: Apple rejecting applications which use Dropbox

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> In the long run the open market always wins. I've never seen an open market in the wild, much less it "always winning". You mean an open market like the "$1 trillion bailout not to collapse the whole economy" open market? Or an open market like "we enforce strict copyright laws to artificially limit each copyrighted product to one maker and it's pricing at his whims"? Or an open market with patents, for the same pu…

You might want to hold off on the ideological rant and re-read. I think cageface was talking about application markets. I didn't know Google was using their market to bail people out and wage a secret resource war.

He said "open markets" you are putting words into his mouth to back up your own. ideology.

Re: Apple rejecting applications which use Dropbox

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Many businesses (especially in the technology space) operate on far lower margins than 30%.

Really? Are you talking gross or net profit? I would be surprised to find many software products where the gross profit margin would be less than 50%.

Why shouldn't we talk about net profit? Taking 30% off the top can quite easily mean the difference between viability and not, quite easily, when you factor in employees, rent, marketing, legal fees, and absolutely everything else. Isn't this precisely what the discussion should be about, whether it makes non-viable a lot of businesses that provide value to people?

Re: Apple rejecting applications which use Dropbox

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This has gone way too far. The other day I downloaded the Google Play Books app. I started it up, signed in.. and nothing. No prompt to go buy books online, no hint at what the app does... just a blank screen. It's completely scummy. You can buy Apple's iCloud storage upgrade from within the OS, and now you can't even LINK to a place where you could link to a place where if you click the right link you could buy Drop…

First they came for the communists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Re: Apple rejecting applications which use Dropbox

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Whilst I can see the reason why people baulk at giving Apple a cut, what doesn't ever seem to be widely discussed are the reasons why that cut might be justified or even well worth it. The user experience of in-app purchasing on iOS is very good. Compared to the myriad online purchasing systems I've experienced in over a decade of buying things online, it's easily the most reliable and satisfying I've encountered. Ca…

Well we can all see the benefit to Apple. Apple are making a killing with the App Store, this much is easily visible in their earnings reports. However, I think you are way off the mark with the value that 30% generates for users. What Apple are doing with the App Store is not expensive for Apple. They hire a few people to run some servers and a couple more to filter apps. It's incredibly cheap and as many of us know…

It's not true that Apple is making a killing with the App Store. Where is it visible in their earnings reports? Are you sure that you're not confusing revenue with profit?

The App Store runs at just above break even: http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/apple_app_store_runs_... http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20008540-37.html -- figures of less than 1% or 2% of gross profit. That is not "a killing."

Re: Apple rejecting applications which use Dropbox

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This has gone way too far. The other day I downloaded the Google Play Books app. I started it up, signed in.. and nothing. No prompt to go buy books online, no hint at what the app does... just a blank screen. It's completely scummy. You can buy Apple's iCloud storage upgrade from within the OS, and now you can't even LINK to a place where you could link to a place where if you click the right link you could buy Drop…

First they came for the communists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Thanks, Reddit!

Re: Apple rejecting applications which use Dropbox

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Well we can all see the benefit to Apple. Apple are making a killing with the App Store, this much is easily visible in their earnings reports. However, I think you are way off the mark with the value that 30% generates for users. What Apple are doing with the App Store is not expensive for Apple. They hire a few people to run some servers and a couple more to filter apps. It's incredibly cheap and as many of us know…

It's not true that Apple is making a killing with the App Store. Where is it visible in their earnings reports? Are you sure that you're not confusing revenue with profit? The App Store runs at just above break even: http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/apple_app_store_runs_... http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20008540-37.html -- figures of less than 1% or 2% of gross profit. That is not "a killing."

Percentage of Apple's overall revenue doesn't matter here.

It is amazing Apple somehow spends so much money on reviewing apps and providing the app store that they can't make much money on a 30% cut.

Re: Apple rejecting applications which use Dropbox

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post #222

Is anyone really surprised? This is what happens if you give a single company so much control over your use of devices. It'll only get worse, we all know that, right?

Well, isn't this because that Apple somehow forgot about existence of such a basic concept as FILE?

Are you referring to iOS not exposing a filesystem? If so, could you explain how it is relevant?

Re: Apple rejecting applications which use Dropbox

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First they came for the communists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Thanks, Reddit!

That's not from Reddit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came%E2%80%A6

It's a poignant message and reminder that this is not the first time this has happened. It's especially important because the OP mentions Apple having "gone too far," as if everything they were doing before was acceptable.

As for your belief that this response is merely a quip from an recent migrant from Reddit, might I point out that your comment is, at the very least, far, far worse. I'm confident, however, they you merely don't care, and are at best a troll.

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