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Re: Ask HN: Are you using a GPT to prompt-engineer another GPT?

#21

I’ve commented it before, and surely it’s something I’m doing wrong, but I cannot believe system prompts or GPTs or any amount of instructing actually works for people to get ChatGPT to respond in a certain fashion with any consistency. I have spent hours and hours and hours and hours trying to get ChatGPT to be a little less apologetic, long-winded, to stop reiterating, and to not interpret questions about its respo…

Do you thumbs down the bad responses?

Re: Ask HN: Are you using a GPT to prompt-engineer another GPT?

#22

I’ve commented it before, and surely it’s something I’m doing wrong, but I cannot believe system prompts or GPTs or any amount of instructing actually works for people to get ChatGPT to respond in a certain fashion with any consistency. I have spent hours and hours and hours and hours trying to get ChatGPT to be a little less apologetic, long-winded, to stop reiterating, and to not interpret questions about its respo…

Do you thumbs down the bad responses?

Religiously.

Re: Ask HN: Are you using a GPT to prompt-engineer another GPT?

#24

I’ve commented it before, and surely it’s something I’m doing wrong, but I cannot believe system prompts or GPTs or any amount of instructing actually works for people to get ChatGPT to respond in a certain fashion with any consistency. I have spent hours and hours and hours and hours trying to get ChatGPT to be a little less apologetic, long-winded, to stop reiterating, and to not interpret questions about its respo…

I have a similar experience.

Only asking for things I expect it to be able to find online helps a lot, though.

The moment I try to be innovative or mix two ideas into something new or novel, it falls to pieces in the most frustrating way.

Re: Ask HN: Are you using a GPT to prompt-engineer another GPT?

#25

On a related note, with the (tens of) thousands of "custom GPTs" coming up in the next few years, it would be interesting if the chat would automatically recommend using any one of them in response to a particular query. In a way, it is as if it is directing you to a (human-made) better engineered (pre) prompt.

GPT store kind of has it already, tell it what you want and it will give you suggestions for GPTs

Re: Ask HN: Are you using a GPT to prompt-engineer another GPT?

#26

I’ve commented it before, and surely it’s something I’m doing wrong, but I cannot believe system prompts or GPTs or any amount of instructing actually works for people to get ChatGPT to respond in a certain fashion with any consistency. I have spent hours and hours and hours and hours trying to get ChatGPT to be a little less apologetic, long-winded, to stop reiterating, and to not interpret questions about its respo…

A fun bug is that ChatGPT will always use an emoji when apologizing. So if you ask it not to use emojis in a chat and it does (which it often will do in promising not to), and point it out, it results in a loop of apologies and self critique that devolves into modeling an existential crisis.

Re: Ask HN: Are you using a GPT to prompt-engineer another GPT?

#27

I’ve commented it before, and surely it’s something I’m doing wrong, but I cannot believe system prompts or GPTs or any amount of instructing actually works for people to get ChatGPT to respond in a certain fashion with any consistency. I have spent hours and hours and hours and hours trying to get ChatGPT to be a little less apologetic, long-winded, to stop reiterating, and to not interpret questions about its respo…

Yea why did they build in the wishy washy wokeness … sigh. Very difficult to get succinct answers from it.

Re: Ask HN: Are you using a GPT to prompt-engineer another GPT?

#28

I'm tempted to build a tool that uses DAGs to orchestrate sequential prompt engineering, but typing that out makes me feel dirty.

Why? It’s a good idea…

Like a sibling comment said, Langchain is basically this but with a bit of structure around the prompt templating

Re: Ask HN: Are you using a GPT to prompt-engineer another GPT?

#29

I’ve commented it before, and surely it’s something I’m doing wrong, but I cannot believe system prompts or GPTs or any amount of instructing actually works for people to get ChatGPT to respond in a certain fashion with any consistency. I have spent hours and hours and hours and hours trying to get ChatGPT to be a little less apologetic, long-winded, to stop reiterating, and to not interpret questions about its respo…

Yea why did they build in the wishy washy wokeness … sigh. Very difficult to get succinct answers from it.

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Re: Ask HN: Are you using a GPT to prompt-engineer another GPT?

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should check out langchain

The self-iterating prompt engineering is a different workflow than normal RAG/tool selection.

Do you mean that the prompts would be completely dynamic in your tool vs the prebuilt prompts with templating that Langchain uses?
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