The example app is 5 years old. Is anybody using this?
It's being used here: https://github.com/Akylas/OSS-DocumentScanner
Svelte Native
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Re: Svelte Native
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The whole add to home screen process is needlessly convoluted. It would be nice if there was something similar to Smart Banners for PWAs: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/webkit/promoting_a...
You just click "Share -> Add To Home Screen." I understand that that's technically more clicks than a smart banner but hardly "convoluted"
Adding to your own home screen under a "share" menu is something probably 90% of users would never think of.
Re: Svelte Native
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I agree with you. RN still sucks on some aspects, but it's quite an amazing technology and I'm grateful it exists.
Nah, among cross-platform, RN has stagnated while Flutter has sped past. The key issue I see these days is that it's just not worth it to build a mobile app these days unless your payment flow happens outside of the app.
> it's just not worth it to build a mobile app these days unless your payment flow happens outside of the app
not true at all, 85% of something is better than 100% of nothing. This is coming from someone who hates mobile apps and apple's grip on them
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> The only major hurdle to this is Apple continuing to treat web apps as second class citizens on iOS If you add a site to iOS' homescreen it automatically becomes a PWA. The best example I found of a site fully leveraging this feature is Cryptee[0]. They talk about the PWA thing here: https://crypt.ee/download [0] https://crypt.ee/
I agree it's MUCH better than it used to be (and huge credit to Jen Simmons and her team for making this possible). However Safari APIs are still WAY behind Chrome/Android and I think this is probably intentional to push developers into using the App Store so Apple can collect their 30% tax https://fugu-tracker.web.app/
It's absolutely intentional, but going to slowly get better even as they drag their feet
Re: Svelte Native
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Re: Svelte Native
#76I’ve done a couple React Native apps and never again. They’re fine at first but if you let one sit for a few months there is a combinatorial explosion of complexity among shifting incompatibilities of different versions of javascript libraries, the framework, android/iOS versions, build systems, etc. it becomes a nightmare. I’d much rather just learn Kotlin/Swift and have only one ecosystem to maintain.
This is a very weird thing to say when expo is literally one line installation and it does not require you anything to be installed (even XCode) on machine for most projects. It is literally 10x times easier than just writing in Swift.
> It is literally 10x times easier than just writing in Swift.
I feel Swift as a language is a lot more productive than TS/JS personally. I've found things like React Native and Expo etc. more of a liability than a help for businesses that are heavily reliant on mobile.
Re: Svelte Native
#77I’ve done a couple React Native apps and never again. They’re fine at first but if you let one sit for a few months there is a combinatorial explosion of complexity among shifting incompatibilities of different versions of javascript libraries, the framework, android/iOS versions, build systems, etc. it becomes a nightmare. I’d much rather just learn Kotlin/Swift and have only one ecosystem to maintain.
Really important to note, this isn’t react native, its NativeScript.
The two have some fundamental differences — React Native is complex because the React ecosystem is full of complexity. NativeScripts biggest problem is more ecosystem size.
Re: Svelte Native
#78I’ve done a couple React Native apps and never again. They’re fine at first but if you let one sit for a few months there is a combinatorial explosion of complexity among shifting incompatibilities of different versions of javascript libraries, the framework, android/iOS versions, build systems, etc. it becomes a nightmare. I’d much rather just learn Kotlin/Swift and have only one ecosystem to maintain.
Maybe it got better but when I was using RN, it felt fine at the first 3 months; then we found out that it is a hell to work with JS and React Native dependency. To the point we needed to forked multiple project to make it worked. And in the end, we still need a considerable native code for our app. It might just be better to start from scratch with native iOS/Android.
Re: Svelte Native
#79I’ve done a couple React Native apps and never again. They’re fine at first but if you let one sit for a few months there is a combinatorial explosion of complexity among shifting incompatibilities of different versions of javascript libraries, the framework, android/iOS versions, build systems, etc. it becomes a nightmare. I’d much rather just learn Kotlin/Swift and have only one ecosystem to maintain.
Writing a Windows app, MacOS app, Linux app, iOS app and Android app is a nightmare because of the insanity and divergence of the SDKs.
They could all have a common API with OS-specific extensions - but instead of that, everyone is trying to make their own API. As a result, developers just write everything in electron/WebKit/WebView.
I wish there was an open standard API for writing native desktop/mobile apps that OSes could adhere to (that the EU forces them to adhere to, haha).
Re: Svelte Native
#80I’ve done a couple React Native apps and never again. They’re fine at first but if you let one sit for a few months there is a combinatorial explosion of complexity among shifting incompatibilities of different versions of javascript libraries, the framework, android/iOS versions, build systems, etc. it becomes a nightmare. I’d much rather just learn Kotlin/Swift and have only one ecosystem to maintain.
Writing a Windows app, MacOS app, Linux app, iOS app and Android app is a nightmare because of the insanity and divergence of the SDKs. They could all have a common API with OS-specific extensions - but instead of that, everyone is trying to make their own API. As a result, developers just write everything in electron/WebKit/WebView. I wish there was an open standard API for writing native desktop/mobile apps that OS…
I've seen Dart filling this gap for many apps lately