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Wow that's a really good idea. I could potentially buy 4 Nvidia P40's for the same price as a 3090 and run inference on pretty much any model I want.

Just make sure you're comfortable with manually compiling the bitsandbytes and generally combine a software stack of almost out of date libraries

That's a good point. Are you referring to the out of date cuda libraries?

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

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Google releasing a (very popular) web browser gives them direct control of web standards. What does this give Facebook?

I think we should not underestimate the strategic talent acquisition value as well. Many top-tier AI engineers may appreciate the openness and choose to join meta, which could be very valuable in the long run.

Excellent point -- goodwill in a hyper-high demand dev community is invaluable.

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

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It's aimed at OpenAI's moat. Making sure they don't accumulate too much of one. No one actually has to use this, it just needs to be clear that LLM as a service won't be super high margin because competition can simply start building on Meta's open source releases.

So. Strange as it seems, is Meta being more 'Open', than OpenAI that was created to be the 'open' option to fight off Meta and Google?

If Meta can turn the money making sauce in GenAI from model+data to just data then it's in a very good position. Meta has tons of data.

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

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Curious what's the current SOTA local copilot model? Are there any extensions in vscode that give you a similar experience? I'd love something more powerful than copilot for local use (I have a 4090, so I should be able to run a decent number of models).

This is a completely fair, but open question. Not to be a typical HN user, but when you say SOTA local, the question is really what benchmarks do you really care about in order to evaluate. Size, operability, complexity, explainability etc.

Working out what copilot models perform best has been a deep exercise for myself and has really made me evaluate my own coding style on what I find important and things I look out for when investigating models and evaluating interview candidates.

I think three benchmarks & leaderboards most go to are:

https://huggingface.co/spaces/bigcode/bigcode-models-leaderb... - which is the most understood, broad language capability leaderboad that relies on well understood evaluations and benchmarks.

https://huggingface.co/spaces/mike-ravkine/can-ai-code-resul... - Also comprehensive, but primarily assesses Python and JavaScript.

https://evalplus.github.io/leaderboard.html - which I think is a better take on comparing models you intend to run locally as you can evaluate performance, operability and size in one visualisation.

Best of luck and I would love to know which models & benchmarks you choose and why.

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

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post #61

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It's aimed at OpenAI's moat. Making sure they don't accumulate too much of one. No one actually has to use this, it just needs to be clear that LLM as a service won't be super high margin because competition can simply start building on Meta's open source releases.

The moat is all but guaranteed to be the scale of the GPUs required to operate these for a lot of users as they get ever larger, specifically the extreme cost that is going along with that. Anybody have $10 billion sitting around to deploy that gigantic open source set-up for millions of users? There's your moat and only a relatively few companies will be able to do it. One of Google's moats is, has been, and will al…

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Can someone explain Meta's strategy with the open source models here? Genuine question, I don't fully undestand. (Please don't say "commoditize your complement" without explaining what exactly they're commoditizing...)

They're commoditizing the ability to generate viral content, which is the carrot that keeps peoples' eyeballs on the hedonic treadmill. More eyeball-time = more ad placements = more money. On the advertiser side, they're commoditizing the ability for companies to write more persuasively-targeted ads. Higher click-through rates = more money. [edit]: For models that generate code instead of content (TFA), it's obviousl…

That stuff ultimately drives people away. Who thinks "I need my daily fix of genAI memes, let me head to Facebook!"?

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

#159

Curious what's the current SOTA local copilot model? Are there any extensions in vscode that give you a similar experience? I'd love something more powerful than copilot for local use (I have a 4090, so I should be able to run a decent number of models).

This is a completely fair, but open question. Not to be a typical HN user, but when you say SOTA local, the question is really what benchmarks do you really care about in order to evaluate. Size, operability, complexity, explainability etc. Working out what copilot models perform best has been a deep exercise for myself and has really made me evaluate my own coding style on what I find important and things I look out…

I'm honestly more interested in anecdotes and I'm just seeking anything that can be a drop-in copilot replacement (that's subjectively better). Perhaps one major thing I'd look for is improved understanding of the code in my own workspace.

I honestly don't know what benchmarks to look at or even what questions to be asking.

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

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Can someone explain Meta's strategy with the open source models here? Genuine question, I don't fully undestand. (Please don't say "commoditize your complement" without explaining what exactly they're commoditizing...)

My opinion is Meta is taking the model out of the secret sauce formula. That leaves hardware and data for training as the barrier to entry. If you don't need to develop your own model then all you need is data and hardware which lowers the barrier to entry. The lower the barrier the more GenAI startups and the more potential data customers for Meta since they certainly have large, curated, datasets for sale.
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