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So, is ClassLink exempt? This seems pretty broad.
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Only if you ignore... a lot. Cancer rates, smoking sections in restaurants, the smell, the yellow grime and used butts sprinkled everywhere, the impact on asthmatics... Smoking a cigarette gets you a lot more than just the nicotine. A smoker moving to vaping is an enormous benefit to health and society.
That sounds like you are being disingenuous. Smoking sections haven't been a thing in the US for a long time (I went to the last one I could find around 2009). Waste from single use vapes is also a huge problem. Similarly there are health effects specific to vaping, time will tell if cancer is among them.
Yes, the regulations that made this happen are good. That's my point.
> Waste from single use vapes is also a huge problem.
Nothing like the cigarette butts that used to be everywhere.
> Similarly there are health effects specific to vaping, time will tell if cancer is among them.
We've plenty of data to safely conclude vaping is safer than smoking tobacco. That doesn't make it safe, but it's absolutely safer.
As a Floridian and someone in IT - I'm curious how this will be implemented I can't remember the last time I signed up for a new social network; do they ask age? Is it an ask to Apple / Google to add stronger parental approval? Verify drivers license #? We heard about this days ago on local news and I've been struggling to figure out short of are you 16 years or older how this is gonna get done and how do you fine so…
(Putting aside if the law is good or bad and the constitutionality of it.) Put criminal penalties to the directors if no reasonable attempt to keep kids out. Plus corporate death penalty if they purposely target kids. Then how they enforce it doesn't really matter as long as there are periodic investigations. The personal risks are too great and the companies will figure it out.
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Vaping isn't the same thing as smoking.
They are consuming nicotine, and tobacco companies are invested in / are the companies producing products in that space. It seems functionally to be the same.
Most of the harm from smoking comes from the smoke, not the nicotine or associated addiction.
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I'm in favor of kids not using social media, but not of the government forcing this on people nor spinning up whatever absurd regulatory regime is required. And the chance of actually enforcing it is zero anyway. It's no more realistic to expect this to work than to expect all parents to do it as you say. It's just wasted money plus personal intrusion that won't achieve anything.
It seems like you are in favor of something that requires coordination, but don't believe in coordination. Is there a different way you think this could be achieved?
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We have a ban on gambling for minors, so if you see social media as more harmful than gambling (personally, I do) it probably makes sense.
Gambling is outright banned for a majority of regions in the US, not just kids. I don't think they are equally bad, just different bad. Gambling is addictive, and it destroys people. Social media is addictive and socially toxic, on the whole it erodes the very fabric of a society.
It's interesting how every generation seems to decry new forms of media as eroding the fabric of society. They said it about video games, television, music, movies, etc. I'm sure we're right this time, though.
All of the other evils stem from this core issue - Meta, et al. makes money off of their customers misery. It should hardly surprise anyone that children are affected much more strongly by industrialized psychology.
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That sounds like you are being disingenuous. Smoking sections haven't been a thing in the US for a long time (I went to the last one I could find around 2009). Waste from single use vapes is also a huge problem. Similarly there are health effects specific to vaping, time will tell if cancer is among them.
> Smoking sections haven't been a thing in the US for a long time... Yes, the regulations that made this happen are good. That's my point. > Waste from single use vapes is also a huge problem. Nothing like the cigarette butts that used to be everywhere. > Similarly there are health effects specific to vaping, time will tell if cancer is among them. We've plenty of data to safely conclude vaping is safer than smoking…
I might be the only one here in favor of this, and wanting to see a federal rollout. It is not reasonable to expect parents to spontaneously agree on a strategy for keeping kids off social media- and that kind of coordination is what it would take, because the kids + social media companies have more than enough time to coordinate workarounds. Have the law put the social media companies on the parents side, or these k…
It's the same problem with requiring age verification for porn. It's not that anyone wants kids to have easy access to this stuff, but that any of these laws will either be (a) unenforceable and useless, or (b) draconian and privacy-destroying.
The government doesn't get to know or regulate the websites I'm visiting, nor should it. And "protecting the children" isn't a valid reason to remove constitutional rights from adults.
(And if it is, let's start talking about gun ownership first...)