I do understand why EVs can wear tires faster than gas cars. Because of the low end torque, it is easy (even in the Nissan Leaf I drive) to chirp the tires at the light. However, if you drive moderately (and it is a choice), there is no reason your tires will wear unduly fast. Says someone on their second set of tires after 51k miles.
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No, EVs do not damage roads. Its not famously proportional, there is a cut off and consumer vehicles, including EVs, do not damage roadways. Large semi trucks do. Not sure how you calculate 40% but that sounds wildly off, unless you are cherry picking and comparing a Rav 4 to that wildly heavy Hummer. Lets take a real comparison though, Model Y at the top end is 4400lbs, a Rav4 at the top end is 3600lbs. Thats a 22%…
The car I drive weighs about 1300 kg, the Tesla Model X is about 2400 kg. I was being conservative with 40%. Edit: turns out my car weighs even less. Edit2: asked Google for most common, seems Tesla Model S at around 2100 kg.
Thats my point, you created an example to match your narrative. Same if you were to compare your car against a Ford F-150, its not a like for like comparison.
Rav 4 - Model Y is a good comparison to capture the extremes. Lexus Rx 350 is 4200lbs for their base trims.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
The car I drive weighs about 1300 kg, the Tesla Model X is about 2400 kg. I was being conservative with 40%. Edit: turns out my car weighs even less. Edit2: asked Google for most common, seems Tesla Model S at around 2100 kg.
Thats my point, you created an example to match your narrative. Same if you were to compare your car against a Ford F-150, its not a like for like comparison. Rav 4 - Model Y is a good comparison to capture the extremes. Lexus Rx 350 is 4200lbs for their base trims.
People aren't picking between a Ford F-150 or a Tesla where I live, they pick between a normal ICE 5-seater or a Tesla. It's not cherry-picked, it is me-picked, a sample of 1 but a sample nonetheless. You OTOH have fabricated a choice that makes it seem reasonable. A truck is a work vehicle, a Tesla is personal transportation. The cyber truck is the like-for-like with a F-150, or at least it is designed to be.
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#34Looks like an astroturf campaign, with essentially the same story popping up around the country. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39159783
I've been seeing a lot of anti-electric stories recently, even here. A lot about how Hertz has been selling their electric cars (mostly unrelated to them being electric, but because they see a lot of scrapes and scrapes are costlier for them to fix on the electrics they have), about how the market is cooling down, etc. Seems like some interests are threatened by the prevalence of electric cars.
You can't engine-brake with an electric engine (with a combustion car, downshifting will force your car to be slower when going downhill, basically) so in mountain regions with ups and downs there's way more braking leading to massively increased tyre wear.
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#35Seems like ev are winning. Entrenched car lobby starts to feel the pressure.
Aren't all "car lobby" companies heavily invested in EVs?
for VW they still promote gas powered extensivly and try to avoid the end of the gas powered car. They even started to "break" some of the promises they made to the previous administration.
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#36I live in Florida and I’m in my third Tesla now. I have not seen unusually fast wear on the tires, but I don’t drive particularly aggressively, and I pay very close attention to tire maintenance. The vehicle has a TPMS and I am meticulous about keeping the tire pressure at the manufacturers recommendation. I noticed early on that the tire wears extremely fast if the pressure is too low or too high. Tire maintenance is easier than ever, as Wawa has free tire inflators and a battery powered auto tire inflator cost less than $100.
Another nitpick about the tires is that the high air pressure (42 PSI in my Model X) means that the tires are under a lot of stress and even minor impacts with the sidewall can burst the tires.
So my bottom line recommendation is that you will get normal wear on your tires if you drive normally rather than aggressively, and if you keep your tires will maintained.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thats my point, you created an example to match your narrative. Same if you were to compare your car against a Ford F-150, its not a like for like comparison. Rav 4 - Model Y is a good comparison to capture the extremes. Lexus Rx 350 is 4200lbs for their base trims.
People aren't picking between a Ford F-150 or a Tesla where I live, they pick between a normal ICE 5-seater or a Tesla. It's not cherry-picked, it is me-picked, a sample of 1 but a sample nonetheless. You OTOH have fabricated a choice that makes it seem reasonable. A truck is a work vehicle, a Tesla is personal transportation. The cyber truck is the like-for-like with a F-150, or at least it is designed to be.
Sorry you are, I am the one providing real world examples, you are the one saying they weight 40% more. Perhaps there is an equivalent car in your market where you could say its a like for like comparison and it is indeed 40% more but from what I can tell its usually around 20-25%.
Toyota Camry, 3300lbs. Model 3, 4000lbs. 20%
If you want to provide a like for like example go for it. But it has to be a like for like, not a Toyota Yaris hatchback vs a Model Y.
Not sure why you are clarifying what a like for like comparison is. I am making the point that you have a cherry picked 40% example, without backing up the models and I am giving you like for like comparisons where its 20%.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, EVs do not damage roads. Its not famously proportional, there is a cut off and consumer vehicles, including EVs, do not damage roadways. Large semi trucks do. Not sure how you calculate 40% but that sounds wildly off, unless you are cherry picking and comparing a Rav 4 to that wildly heavy Hummer. Lets take a real comparison though, Model Y at the top end is 4400lbs, a Rav4 at the top end is 3600lbs. Thats a 22%…
The car I drive weighs about 1300 kg, the Tesla Model X is about 2400 kg. I was being conservative with 40%. Edit: turns out my car weighs even less. Edit2: asked Google for most common, seems Tesla Model S at around 2100 kg.
So many edits. Tell us what your car is then? You keep picking different cars.
Model x 5400lbs, BMW x5 4800lbs. 12%
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been seeing a lot of anti-electric stories recently, even here. A lot about how Hertz has been selling their electric cars (mostly unrelated to them being electric, but because they see a lot of scrapes and scrapes are costlier for them to fix on the electrics they have), about how the market is cooling down, etc. Seems like some interests are threatened by the prevalence of electric cars.
You can't engine-brake with an electric engine (with a combustion car, downshifting will force your car to be slower when going downhill, basically) so in mountain regions with ups and downs there's way more braking leading to massively increased tyre wear.
You clearly haven’t owned or driven one. Most have a configurable setting for regenerative braking, where the rotation of the wheels turns the motors to put energy back into the battery, and this has a very similar effect on speed. Less flexible, perhaps, than engine braking, as most EVs have a single forward gear, but I’ve now driven 86,000 miles in mine and am still on the factory discs and pads.