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Re: On a Tesla: Don't

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Post by wolframhempel »

pharmakom wrote: post #15
wolframhempel wrote: post #5

On the "yelling at me" part - I find this an absolutely puzzling design pattern that a number of automakers have adopted. I was driving a Volkswagen ID4 - their mid-size electric car - the other day, and my dog was on the back seat. She triggered the seat belt alarm, but not straight away, only once we were on the German Autobahn. It showed the icon on the dashboard, then it started beeping. Then it started beeping l…

You probably should have your dog belted in to a chest harness. Check your insurance policy.

Even with the chest harness, she can switch seats. You have to put the seatbelts on the empty seats as well, but that makes it harder for her to lie down comfortably.

Re: On a Tesla: Don't

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Post by tpm »

clouddrover wrote: post #20
tpm wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> - if you get a newer car, you (basically) won't HAVE any dedicated controls. no turn signal stalk. No gear stalk - PRND - it will guess for you (really) What? How do you signal a turn then? How do you change the gear?

> How do you signal a turn then? Buttons on the steering wheel. It's not very usable when you're trying to indicate while turning (like around a roundabout): https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/tesla-steering-wheel-mode... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA2dSHu-hns > How do you change the gear? Via the touch screen or buttons in the overhead console: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/h6CgpHMuqC8 They are both dumb desig…

Oh no. Thank you. Will never get a Tesla.

Re: On a Tesla: Don't

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Post by epups »

dhg72 wrote: post #3

A few legitimate but common complaints marred by a bunch of issues that aren’t common (my phone key works fine, Bluetooth is fine, etc) and completely unsubstantiated prediction that the runaway top seller of EVs, indeed the best selling cars several years running, will somehow “fail to compete” in the EV space

They are already losing the lead on the EV market to BYD: https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/tesla-delivered-1-81-mill...

I personally think this prediction is grounded. It has been over-promising and under-delivering for a while, and Musk has gone from a money printing machine to someone perceived as toxic/erratic. They will face difficulties in a scenario where competitors can make better, cheaper cars, and their stock market value is not inflated to compensate for that.

Re: On a Tesla: Don't

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Post by londons_explore »

avhception wrote: post #10
wolframhempel wrote: post #5

On the "yelling at me" part - I find this an absolutely puzzling design pattern that a number of automakers have adopted. I was driving a Volkswagen ID4 - their mid-size electric car - the other day, and my dog was on the back seat. She triggered the seat belt alarm, but not straight away, only once we were on the German Autobahn. It showed the icon on the dashboard, then it started beeping. Then it started beeping l…

Something like this happened in my Skoda a while ago. Driving along on the Autobahn when a really minor irregularity in the road caused the bag I had placed on the passenger seat to be pushed into the seat very gently, triggering the passenger-side seat belt alarm. I had to take the next exit and park somewhere to get it to shut up. Unrelated but also relevant to the story: My father's new car (a brand-new Nissan) st…

> . I had to take the next exit and park somewhere to get it to shut up

This is the safe thing to do. A bag heavy enough to set off the sensors (usually 10kg) is gonna kill someone if not belted in in an accident.

It is not uncommon for bags to go through the front windscreen and kill someone in the car that crashes into you.

Re: On a Tesla: Don't

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Post by hoseja »

wolframhempel wrote: post #5

On the "yelling at me" part - I find this an absolutely puzzling design pattern that a number of automakers have adopted. I was driving a Volkswagen ID4 - their mid-size electric car - the other day, and my dog was on the back seat. She triggered the seat belt alarm, but not straight away, only once we were on the German Autobahn. It showed the icon on the dashboard, then it started beeping. Then it started beeping l…

Average voters are allowed to own these cars. And the maker then gets blamed when they do average voter things with it.

Re: On a Tesla: Don't

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Post by crubier »

wolframhempel wrote: post #5

On the "yelling at me" part - I find this an absolutely puzzling design pattern that a number of automakers have adopted. I was driving a Volkswagen ID4 - their mid-size electric car - the other day, and my dog was on the back seat. She triggered the seat belt alarm, but not straight away, only once we were on the German Autobahn. It showed the icon on the dashboard, then it started beeping. Then it started beeping l…

The annoying alarm is actually useful so you don't have to shout on your mother in law to get her damn seatbelt. It does the dirty work for you, you don't have to be that annoying person asking for people to put their seatbelt in your car.

In cases like you encountered with your dog, just put the seatbelt on your dog or bag / boxes. It's actually safer for you in case of a crash, they wont get flying into your face. If it's not possible, just put the seatbelt on under your dog just to silence the alarm

Re: On a Tesla: Don't

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Post by quonn »

m463 wrote: post #8

The problem with a tesla is that it is like a finicky partner. You're in love. It is romantic. smooth, sleep touchscreen for everything feels so modern. It is a better car than ICE, hands down. Everything that was before was terrible. And everything is getting better! But at some point, you realize some things are never going to change, and you are going to have to live with it. - it is dangerously hard to use any co…

> - it is dangerously hard to use any control that doesn't have a dedicated button. The touchscreen in a moving car is a moving mess of tiny targets crowded too close together

No it isn't.

> - even if you have a dedicated control for say wipers, you will still curse interval wipers.

Sensor-based wipers fail to predict rain regularly. I discussed this topic recently with a friend, her Mercedes has the same problem and it does have a sensor.

> - if you get a newer car, you (basically) won't HAVE any dedicated controls. no turn signal stalk. No gear stalk - PRND - it will guess for you (really)

That's a valid point. But it remains to be seen how much of a problem this is. Certainly other manufacturers (Volkswagen ID.4 for example) cramp many more buttons on the steering wheel.

> - some functions - tesla doesn't care about, and never will.

Like what?

> - don't get a flat tire if you care about your time. If you can't change a spare, nvm.

Most modern cars don't have a reserve tire. Not sure what you're talking about.

> - going forward - cram all controls/settings and information displays into a small ipad. You are all peons, you get less control/safety/information because tesla wants fewer warranty claims.

It's still wrong if you repeat it multiple times.

Re: On a Tesla: Don't

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Post by JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B »

avhception wrote: post #10
wolframhempel wrote: post #5

On the "yelling at me" part - I find this an absolutely puzzling design pattern that a number of automakers have adopted. I was driving a Volkswagen ID4 - their mid-size electric car - the other day, and my dog was on the back seat. She triggered the seat belt alarm, but not straight away, only once we were on the German Autobahn. It showed the icon on the dashboard, then it started beeping. Then it started beeping l…

Something like this happened in my Skoda a while ago. Driving along on the Autobahn when a really minor irregularity in the road caused the bag I had placed on the passenger seat to be pushed into the seat very gently, triggering the passenger-side seat belt alarm. I had to take the next exit and park somewhere to get it to shut up. Unrelated but also relevant to the story: My father's new car (a brand-new Nissan) st…

> starts yelling at you to put the seat belt on the second you start the car

Unrelated too but in France you must put your seatbelts before starting the car. It’s the law.

Re: On a Tesla: Don't

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Post by bzzzt »

Mashimo wrote: post #14
m463 wrote: post #8

The problem with a tesla is that it is like a finicky partner. You're in love. It is romantic. smooth, sleep touchscreen for everything feels so modern. It is a better car than ICE, hands down. Everything that was before was terrible. And everything is getting better! But at some point, you realize some things are never going to change, and you are going to have to live with it. - it is dangerously hard to use any co…

> - don't get a flat tire if you care about your time. If you can't change a spare, nvm. Is it harder to change a spare on a tesla compare to other cars?

Probably because you don't get a spare tire so you have to wait until road side assistance comes to you.

Re: On a Tesla: Don't

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Post by just_1_comment »

WTH is a “jammern” and why would this articles english writer use that foreign word in a sentence? I can’t be the only person who didn’t know what it meant and I was totally distracted from the article by their apparent presumption that the word was in common use.
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