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Young File-Sharers Respond To Tough Laws By Buying A VPN

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Re: Young File-Sharers Respond To Tough Laws By Buying A VPN

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Any recommendations on VPN Providers? EDIT: I saw this further down: https://www.getcloak.com

I use http://www.goldenfrog.com/vyprvpn

A fair amount of research suggests this company subscribes to the GoDaddy school of thought about your privacy.

Re: Young File-Sharers Respond To Tough Laws By Buying A VPN

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> Each month, you send me $100, and I will send you back copies of hot movies of varying quality, but all perfectly legal Your snide comment is way off the mark. By your tone I'm assuming you're staunchly anti-piracy and don't pirate stuff, so you don't have experience with the actual quality of pirated media. As a long-time pirate (10+ years), I can unequivocally tell you that pirated media is lightyears ahead of an…

I didn't imply that VPN services did cost $100 a month, nor did I think they did. I would honestly be surprised if I had to pay more than $5 a month for one. The $100 a month figure I threw out was what I thought it might cost me to buy assorted 'hot media' on the market and resell it at a small margin. I also didn't imply that your pirated media was of poor quality, but since you so proudly brought it up, looking ov…

As my colleague commented last week, "'You wouldn't steal a car?' Feel free to copy my Range Rover."

Re: Young File-Sharers Respond To Tough Laws By Buying A VPN

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Actually I was thinking that should be the content industry's next business model. People subscribe to torrent/content services. The services buy licenses for content. People download content. It's almost the same thing as radio, the difference being that you have a copy.

how about having "donate" buttons on torrent sites that would allow you to donate either to studio, or actor, or producer. That money would go to a offshore account where they would wait to be claimed by the cast or copyright holder. And the only condition for transferring money from this account would be to sign a carefully worded document that would mean that copyright holder agrees to such distribution model?

I've been wanting a service like this for anime for years. Instead of paying ridiculous import prices for DVDs without English subtitles, let overseas fansub watchers pay what they want, directly to the studio, anonymously. Admittedly this might discourage some buyers who previously imported DVDs from Japan, but I'd bet there'd be an overall net increase in revenue for the studios.

Too bad it won't happen anytime soon.

Re: Young File-Sharers Respond To Tough Laws By Buying A VPN

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> Each month, you send me $100, and I will send you back copies of hot movies of varying quality, but all perfectly legal Your snide comment is way off the mark. By your tone I'm assuming you're staunchly anti-piracy and don't pirate stuff, so you don't have experience with the actual quality of pirated media. As a long-time pirate (10+ years), I can unequivocally tell you that pirated media is lightyears ahead of an…

"I can unequivocally tell you that pirated media is lightyears ahead of anything available legally" I find this unlikely. Piracy is just a copy. It's not like anything new is actually created in the process. You are getting a very nice duplicate of the original. You are part of the entitlement generation. Since you are so used to just getting things for free, you will just keep making excuses to pirate when the compa…

> I find this unlikely. Piracy is just a copy. It's not like anything new is actually created in the process. You are getting a very nice duplicate of the original.

As unlikely as you may find it, it's a fact. Pirated media has none of the restrictions that legitimately obtained media does. For example, I don't have to worry about whether a new device that I've just bought will be compatible with all the media I already possess - since it's not DRM-encumbered, I'm free to do whatever neccessary to get the file onto the device.

Acquiring the media is the same - I can torrent music on my Linux PC, but I can't download music using many legitimate sources.

> You are part of the entitlement generation. Since you are so used to just getting things for free, you will just keep making excuses to pirate when the company doesn't give you exactly what you want.

Wrong. I buy media when it's provided in a cross-platform and non-DRM encumbered manner. I've purchased every single Humble Indie Bundle until now (and paid more than the average), not only because Linux & Android versions are available, but also because I can download the games from my web browser. I haven't really played the games that much, but that's not the point.

When Louis CK announced his $5 comedy special that was available online (from a web browser) in a non-DRM encumbered manner, I went and purchased it immediately, even though I don't particularly enjoy his comedy, and did the same with Aziz Ansari's comedy special as well.

Re: Young File-Sharers Respond To Tough Laws By Buying A VPN

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I didn't imply that VPN services did cost $100 a month, nor did I think they did. I would honestly be surprised if I had to pay more than $5 a month for one. The $100 a month figure I threw out was what I thought it might cost me to buy assorted 'hot media' on the market and resell it at a small margin. I also didn't imply that your pirated media was of poor quality, but since you so proudly brought it up, looking ov…

As my colleague commented last week, "'You wouldn't steal a car?' Feel free to copy my Range Rover."

I'm not naive enough to believe that copying your friend's Range Rover takes anything away from him. I understand that.

It takes away from the people who design, manufacture and sell Range Rover vehicles.

To turn that analogy on its head -- identity theft is also not 'stealing'. I haven't taken anything away from the original holder of that identity, as they are decidedly still who they are. That doesn't make it victimless, and it certainly doesn't make it right.

Re: Young File-Sharers Respond To Tough Laws By Buying A VPN

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As my colleague commented last week, "'You wouldn't steal a car?' Feel free to copy my Range Rover."

I'm not naive enough to believe that copying your friend's Range Rover takes anything away from him. I understand that. It takes away from the people who design, manufacture and sell Range Rover vehicles. To turn that analogy on its head -- identity theft is also not 'stealing'. I haven't taken anything away from the original holder of that identity, as they are decidedly still who they are. That doesn't make it vict…

Doesn't turn it on its head, in fact, supports my point. Copying your identity info doesnt hurt you in any way. Using that ID for commerce does.

Copying a movie you'd truly never pay for doesn't hurt. Reselling your copy does.

Making a copy uses resources and work. Copying a Land Rover would cost you more than buying a new one. Mass production and distribution lowers the price enough you can buy it cheaper than you can make it.

Studios should be thinking the same way, realizing that people will pay for convenience. To get paid more, make it more convenient. Just look through these comments to see how much "piracy" is actually about convenience.

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> VPN is 3 letters and so is IRA, ETA and RAF so thats a link You forgot ATF, FBI, and CIA. So, it's okay the good guys only have three letters as well. o.O

"ATF, FBI, and CIA" and "the good guys" in the same sentence? o_O

Thank you for explaining my joke. I like jokes.

Re: Young File-Sharers Respond To Tough Laws By Buying A VPN

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Why would websites block access from ec2?

No idea. Last time I bothered trying Stack Overflow did though. (That was a while ago, when it was still called that.)

Yeah, the whole Stack Overflow family of websites blocks EC2.

Other examples include Yelp and Bank of America.

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