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Post by Anechoic »

addicted wrote: post #164
dehrmann wrote: post #57

Apple's really been acting in bad faith with moves like this and the 27% fee on external payments. Regulators took these actions for a reason, and Apple's doing its best to just barely comply, at the cost of bringing even more attention to itself.

The Apple apologia anti regulation response to this comment is ironic because without anti monopoly protections Apple wouldn’t even exist right now. Microsoft bailed out Apple with an investment entirely because of anti monopoly regulations. More importantly, MS kept producing versions of Office and even Internet Explorer IIRC that allowed the Mac to remain an option because of their fear of being regulation. Then af…

>Microsoft bailed out Apple with an investment entirely because of anti monopoly regulations.

Not "entirely", it was a lawsuit settlement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Canyon_Company

Re: iPad users will miss out on third-party app stores, browser engines, and more

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Post by pjmlp »

addicted wrote: post #164
dehrmann wrote: post #57

Apple's really been acting in bad faith with moves like this and the 27% fee on external payments. Regulators took these actions for a reason, and Apple's doing its best to just barely comply, at the cost of bringing even more attention to itself.

The Apple apologia anti regulation response to this comment is ironic because without anti monopoly protections Apple wouldn’t even exist right now. Microsoft bailed out Apple with an investment entirely because of anti monopoly regulations. More importantly, MS kept producing versions of Office and even Internet Explorer IIRC that allowed the Mac to remain an option because of their fear of being regulation. Then af…

Not only that, many people that only know Apple after they managed to survive, seem completly unaware that old Apple was always siloed into their own stuff, A/UX and the timid attempt to having clones being officially supported, were the only exceptions to their vertical integration.

Even Atari and Commodore were somehow more open to third party vendors in that regard.

Re: iPad users will miss out on third-party app stores, browser engines, and more

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Post by kmlx »

fvvybfbfbyg wrote: post #183
kmlx wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what monopoly does apple have? not for smartphones: https://www.counterpointresearch.com/insights/global-smartph... not for macs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_share_of_personal_compu... not for operating systems: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_syste... not for web browsers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

Global market share hardly matters though. UN isn’t regulated monopolies national agencies/EU are. Not that it should matter it’s still an oligopoly which is not that different

this is a super slippery slope. this would mean most manufacturers are actually monopolies because they have control over their own products. i don’t see how this makes any sense.
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