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Re: Stack Overflow: 79% of Developers Considering a Career Move

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I'm just one data point, but after quitting a 12-year position writing RFID related apps, I'm raising chickens and writing.

There are no jobs for me; even for positions that totally align with my skills, the employers express no interest. For one thing, they get hundreds of applicants per posting. For another, DEI.

One nice thing--my old employer is hiring me back on a consulting basis. Meanwhile, I'm retraining and looking into side hustles, AI-related opportunities, manufacturing (a lifelong interest).

Technology as a career is not dead, but it has significantly downsized and is no longer a guaranteed job.

Re: Stack Overflow: 79% of Developers Considering a Career Move

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This tells you something: It's shitty everywhere and moving employers will most likely just get you a new set of problems.

In today's climate, I would advise people not to change jobs unless it's an outstanding opportunity.

Re: Stack Overflow: 79% of Developers Considering a Career Move

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This seems more like a social commentary about job satisfaction for the career at almost 80%, but I suspect the pattern of movement that the “only way to get a significant salary upgrade is to switch jobs” is the secret pressure. There are a LOT of disincentives to moving right now, especially with coast housing stock being at record cost and such low levels. Add to the fact that employers seem to be having a great time laying everyone off, and you have a powder keg for dissatisfaction.

Re: Stack Overflow: 79% of Developers Considering a Career Move

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This tells you something: It's shitty everywhere and moving employers will most likely just get you a new set of problems.

In today's climate, I would advise people not to change jobs unless it's an outstanding opportunity.

No. This is backwards. Peoplw should change jobs and should optimize for better working conditions and fair treatment. Super talented people should do it right now. The time for loyalty is over!

The corpos will never change their ways unless they are literally bleeding talent and money.

Re: Stack Overflow: 79% of Developers Considering a Career Move

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In today's climate, I would advise people not to change jobs unless it's an outstanding opportunity.

No. This is backwards. Peoplw should change jobs and should optimize for better working conditions and fair treatment. Super talented people should do it right now. The time for loyalty is over! The corpos will never change their ways unless they are literally bleeding talent and money.

"Peoplw should change jobs and should optimize for better working conditions and fair treatment"

I get that we need this, but now is not the time to do it. It's an employers market and when you leave your current job, there will be 100+ applicants waiting to replace you and you will have just as much competition finding your next job.

Re: Stack Overflow: 79% of Developers Considering a Career Move

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. This is backwards. Peoplw should change jobs and should optimize for better working conditions and fair treatment. Super talented people should do it right now. The time for loyalty is over! The corpos will never change their ways unless they are literally bleeding talent and money.

"Peoplw should change jobs and should optimize for better working conditions and fair treatment" I get that we need this, but now is not the time to do it. It's an employers market and when you leave your current job, there will be 100+ applicants waiting to replace you and you will have just as much competition finding your next job.

You find your next job and after that you move. Yes, it's tough, but the whole RTO debacle allowed corpos to show their true colors.

Re: Stack Overflow: 79% of Developers Considering a Career Move

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. This is backwards. Peoplw should change jobs and should optimize for better working conditions and fair treatment. Super talented people should do it right now. The time for loyalty is over! The corpos will never change their ways unless they are literally bleeding talent and money.

"Peoplw should change jobs and should optimize for better working conditions and fair treatment" I get that we need this, but now is not the time to do it. It's an employers market and when you leave your current job, there will be 100+ applicants waiting to replace you and you will have just as much competition finding your next job.

What makes you think that employers are not looking to replace everyone right now? It would make sense to me if there are 100x replacement queue, presumably desperate to accept lower pay, right now. All the more reasons to make a move if you can.
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