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I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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@dang Is it just my impression that HN is drifting rigtwards on this topic? I remember HN being more in favour of proactive action against anthropic climate change. This thread feels dominated by attitudes reflecting inaction.

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Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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The earth has had some of the fastest warming ever in the last 15 thousand. During this time crop yields have increased dramatically. The trend is unmistakable, the warmer the planet, the more food we produce.

Depends on source of your information. Hot Weather.—Many a man has mopped his brow during the summer months of 1884, declaring it was the hottest weather the world ever knew, which, of course, would not be true, for the extreme heat in the record of the past has not been approached during the late summer. In 627, the heat was so great in France and Germany, says the London Standard, that all springs dried up; water b…

Only in regards to the rivers drying out. At that time those rivers weren’t canals like since the 19th century. They where much larger and had more „siderivers“ so water could get into the ground etc much more easily.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Second order effects will be the killer. It won’t be the coastal flooding, it will be the dispossessed hordes. It won’t be the uninhabitable areas, it will be the rapid rise in price of food staples. No matter where you are, the chaos will come to your door, when it comes. Takes surprisingly little to collapse a civilisation when you kick its knees out from under it.

I always tell my gun-hoarding, go-box toting, bug-out planning prepper friends the same thing. You don't have enough guns and ammo to stop the masses coming for your canned pork'n'beans.

they don't have to stop the hordes, they just need to make sure the hordes know that their are easier places to forage than yours.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

#554

Why would anyone worry about things they have no control on? People that overestimate the value of their opinions, maybe.

There's a narcissism that lends to every generation thinking theirs is the end of history, but I don't think it entirely explains anxiety over climate change.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Dang, the new video is NOT the original Sabine video and is some weird, stupid thing. Please change it back to Sabine's video.

Is Dang trolling us?

im not pissed i find it hilarious

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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That's because it's more just a nice secondary factor. ;) Mostly I moved because it amused me. I have a long history of going to places I can't actually locate on a map, eg I thought Northwestern University would be in Portland, not Chicago - imagine my shock when I stepped off the plane. Similarly with Finland. I knew so little about the place that when the opportunity to move arose I couldn't not take it, it would…

How were you able to board the right plane if you thought you were flying to Portland?

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Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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"Self recommending! Come to Finland and help us build a stronger democracy, whatever that means to you. " How are you finding life as an enviromental migrant?

Great! Much nicer than Boston.

how were you able to permanently move from the states to Finland - were you already a citizen there? (I assume you mean Boston Mass, unless you are talking about another Boston already in the EU)

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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I live in the south of france, and I really need to move to a cooler region in france. Summer are very long, nights are hot, makes it hard to sleep well. I don't have enough money to install AC. Mobile AC is too noisy. I have been postponing for 4 years now. I am reading The Ministry Of The Future, it's a great book. India will be the first to suffer from this.

Just finished that book myself and couldn’t disagree more. Ministry for the Future is an authoritarian’s wet dream mixed with a bunch of extremely implausible stuff, told in a style that’s as unengaging as possible.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

#560

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Second order effects will be the killer. It won’t be the coastal flooding, it will be the dispossessed hordes. It won’t be the uninhabitable areas, it will be the rapid rise in price of food staples. No matter where you are, the chaos will come to your door, when it comes. Takes surprisingly little to collapse a civilisation when you kick its knees out from under it.

I always tell my gun-hoarding, go-box toting, bug-out planning prepper friends the same thing. You don't have enough guns and ammo to stop the masses coming for your canned pork'n'beans.

On the other hand, on a country level, countries generally do have enough guns and ammo to greatly limit any chaos coming over their border; uncontrolled immigration happens not because countries can't control it but because they effectively choose not to.
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