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I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Your belief seems to be that the value of humanity scales relative to the number of living humans. I disagree - I don't think one billion humans would be 1/10th as valuable as ten billion humans, provided we got to one billion just by deciding to have fewer kids. Killing humans is morally wrong in everything except weird edge cases, but having two children instead of three is not killing anyone. The bulk of what I va…

What you are missing is that to you, "valuable" continued existence means continuing to produce pointless tech gadgets and indefinitely increasing global GDP or something. To somebody else it means just living life. There is no way to objectively argue superiority of one over the other except from a religious worldview.

I don't care about useless gadgets and GDP. I care about people poking around in the Mariana Trench, surveying carnivorous snails, writing and reading novels, and keeping their societies functioning and happy. Please don't damn me for opinions I don't actually hold.

Regarding the superiority of worldviews, sure, subjectivity applies and we could go down the rabbit hole of discussing that - but the comment I was replying to was not about which worldview was better! Vasco said that "Either it's fine for Earth to not have humans ... Or it's not fine ... but if to do that we want to reduce the humans, I don't get it." I'm not going to argue that my values are the best because it's already self-evident to me and I doubt I can improve on the existing work[0], but I am very willing to explain how they're logically consistent.

[0] Via utilitarianism and the repugnant conclusion and onward. I don't think I can do any better than all the philosophers who've debated this.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Why was the link changed? 3 hours ago it linked to this: https://backreaction.blogspot.com/2024/01/i-used-to-not-worr... Now it links to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCo3XwTRg9o

I don't understand why someone would change it. I was very confused when I opened the link.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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I lived in Oulu for a time, and yes it does indeed live up to its winter cycling reputation. Actually most of my wife's family lives around that region, so we'll probably return up there in a few years. Finland is terrific! Learning the language is tough, and recommended, but ultimately optional for white collar migrants. The lower salaries here are unfortunate - I make a third of what I could make as a software lead…

Salary comparisons without accounting for cost of living is entirely useless and means nothing.

Meh, you can come up with twenty different methodologies and they all point to coming out way way behind in Finland. SF -> Finland immigrant, took approximately 70% pay cut, and enjoying the 80% marginal tax rate.

The health of democracy is way better than the US at least.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Dang, the new video is NOT the original Sabine video and is some weird, stupid thing. Please change it back to Sabine's video.

The new video is however a spot on commentary on people who didn't worry about climate change but now do. Very sharp swap, IMO.

I saw a few seconds of people yelling and turned it off. What is this crap?

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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You sure about that? The plan seems to be letting in anyone and everyone who says the magic words “asylum” or “refugee.”

Look up the rates of successful asylum and refugee applications. In the US, which takes in far more refugees and asylum seekers, it’s around half a percentage point of all legal immigration attempts succeed. https://www.cato.org/blog/why-legal-immigration-nearly-impos...

That’s very interesting, can you point me to any sources showing that 99.5% of all asylum seekers and refugees are deported every single year? Or do they instead just transition into the illegal immigrant category and we just kinda collectively shrug our shoulders and go “well what can ya do.”

Because I see that we have a lot of people coming in from Mexico claiming asylum for uh, whatever war is going on there, getting released into the country, and just never showing up for their court hearings: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/nearly-600000-m...

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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I never worried particularly much about climate change, but just to hedge my bets for my kids I moved to northern Europe. For the most part it's just equated to milder (= bearable) Winters and nicer summers up here. I guess we also spend a fair bit on moving to renewables up here - Finland achieved energy self sufficiency last year thanks to a good combination of nuclear + solar + hydro. If I were an ideologue in eit…

This is an illusion. There is no safe place, you can’t escape the reality of global warming by moving to another place.

The earth has had some of the fastest warming ever in the last 15 thousand. During this time crop yields have increased dramatically. The trend is unmistakable, the warmer the planet, the more food we produce.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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I never worried particularly much about climate change, but just to hedge my bets for my kids I moved to northern Europe. For the most part it's just equated to milder (= bearable) Winters and nicer summers up here. I guess we also spend a fair bit on moving to renewables up here - Finland achieved energy self sufficiency last year thanks to a good combination of nuclear + solar + hydro. If I were an ideologue in eit…

> Finland achieved energy self sufficiency last year thanks to a good combination of nuclear + solar + hydro.

Energy means, well, energy. Finland still drives combustion vehicles (a lot of them, last I was there they drove some of the oldest cars in the EU on average due to high taxes for buying new ones) and probably mostly heat with energy not originating from the trio you mentioned.

I think you meant electricity, which is a great milestone on the way but not yet the destination.

Electricity used to be about 10% of a rich country's energy consumption, of late I think it's closer to 20% as some early adopters and new buildings have made the switch, but that still leaves 80% of your energy generated from oil and natural gas

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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I never worried particularly much about climate change, but just to hedge my bets for my kids I moved to northern Europe. For the most part it's just equated to milder (= bearable) Winters and nicer summers up here. I guess we also spend a fair bit on moving to renewables up here - Finland achieved energy self sufficiency last year thanks to a good combination of nuclear + solar + hydro. If I were an ideologue in eit…

And yet I never saw people tracking the daily electricity spot price until I moved to Finland :). Miten menee sun suomi, on kiva oppia sitä.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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We will close the border, and kill them. :)

What will you fire on them, polar bears ? If the Indians come to realize India is no longer habitable you better make room.

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