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U.S. army drops requirement for high school diploma (2022)

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Re: U.S. army drops requirement for high school diploma (2022)

#61

A bit of sensationalism going on. They still have to pass a standardize test that mostly proves they have an IQ suitable for military service. There are people that could be a great soldier/servicemember that didn’t make it through high school. Some will flourish under a military environment that failed out of high school. I don’t really like people assuming somebody that didn’t graduate high school are somehow infer…

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Re: U.S. army drops requirement for high school diploma (2022)

#62
post #19

Oh good, so we continue to exploit the uneducated for our military so they won't realize how little we actually support veterans until it's too late.

> exploit the uneducated for our military

Just the navy, who instituted a similar change on Friday. This article about the army is from 2022 and the army reverted the change a week later. High school completion is a requirement again. It remains to be seen if the navy makes it the fully week.

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#63

Less people being willing to go fight and die in pointless wars is at least a small positive sign for society.

Neutrality is support for might makes right. Choosing to be neutral is to say that the strongest party should win.

Not being prepared to be violent makes you harmless. Having the capacity for violence and choosing not to use it makes you peaceful.

If you speak softly, but don't carry a big stick, then you are just speaking softly.

Might might not make right, but it determines who gets to make the rules.

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#64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not 2003 anymore. Current and likely-upcoming wars are very important.

It may not be 2003 any longer, but what happened then is still reverberating. Seeing the US military and so many lives just get utterly squandered running imperial errands for the president's daddy's friends. Who wouldn't strongly discourage their own kids from putting themselves in such a vulnerable position, or be skeptical of the claim that the next war might actually be important? Similarly so much of Russia's cu…

Oh yes, heads should have rolled for the instigation of the Iraq War. The damage they caused is immense and will be felt for generations.

Re: U.S. army drops requirement for high school diploma (2022)

#65

Less people being willing to go fight and die in pointless wars is at least a small positive sign for society.

For a country to exist, it needs a military or an ally with one. It's easy to have no military, as long as you don't mind being completely controlled by a country with one.

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#66

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You obviously have no idea how many shots are mandatory for recruits deploying

It would be a significant strain on their logistics, which the us military is very good at, to let these shots be optional

It's mission oriented, not politics.

Re: U.S. army drops requirement for high school diploma (2022)

#67

A bit of sensationalism going on. They still have to pass a standardize test that mostly proves they have an IQ suitable for military service. There are people that could be a great soldier/servicemember that didn’t make it through high school. Some will flourish under a military environment that failed out of high school. I don’t really like people assuming somebody that didn’t graduate high school are somehow infer…

The problem is that a high school education represents literally years of knowledge a person has accumulated. People not having that knowledge means they will not be able to participate. It's not about whether they will be smart enough to learn; it's about the fact that they will have to be taught. There's no foundation to build on, there's no axiomatic knowledge we can rely on. People who haven't graduated high scho…

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#68
post #6

Less people being willing to go fight and die in pointless wars is at least a small positive sign for society.

Not a good sign for a country that depends on its military to maintain a hegemony. It’s also not like our “enemies” are reducing their armies or anything.

human wave is not the game. The Ukraine-Russia war has shown us how important the technology is. The whole war is fighting with drones to detect and kill enemies.

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#69
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing it means is that they’re administering the test, not a school board. That may be relevant or ripe for abuse.

wouldn't be the first time -- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_100,000

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Re: U.S. army drops requirement for high school diploma (2022)

#70

If you want more recruits, you simply need to pay more.

It surprises me that this obvious solution is the one the government avoids the most. I would expect salaries to keep pace with the private sector. Especially when the cost of mistakes by a CEO (company goes bankrupt) is much less than the cost of a mistake by an officer (many people die). Might also stop the systemic corruption in the military AKA the revolving door between the military and private contractors.
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