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I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by ZunarJ5 »

jdksmdbtbdnmsm wrote: post #88
ZunarJ5 wrote: post #50

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I don't know and frankly, it does not matter. In my day job, I trace ecological changes over time in landscapes by reading a very localised sediment core. Over time, this knowledge builds, piece by piece, to build a complex tapestry of what was. It's like building a functional database that then fuels positive action. If you want to check out the data see: https://apps.neotomadb.org/explorer/ You can only do what you…

> the little things do add up This is the first thing that anyone who has actually studied historical societal change would have to disagree with. In fact, history almost completely shows that organizing one another and acting strategically in unison is the only hope, because there is effectively zero evidence of the "little things" just happening to add up. In conclusion, you are absolutely full of it. You either do…

This guide I linked is literally how to do that if and how you are able to, especially when you do not know where to start. Those movements start small, with a few people organising and snowballing. This is a guide on starting that process, not finishing. We need to show people how to begin if we want mass action, and the groundwork for strong movements is extremely important as it is inherently a bottom-up approach to societal change.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by jdietrich »

127361 wrote: post #54
jdietrich wrote: post #26

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Stop burning stuff. Tell other people to stop burning stuff. Tell your representatives to work on alternatives to burning stuff. Don't invest in companies that burn a lot of stuff. Avoid waterfront property.

Encourage other people (especially if you're in a developing country) not to have too many children. The absolutely unsustainable population levels worldwide are behind the climate and pollution crises. We are an incredibly destructive species to the planet. All countries, developing and developed are part of the problem. Not only that the overcrowding and fighting over limited resources causes psychosocial stress, w…

A story in two charts:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/children-per-woman-un

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by jdietrich »

cynicalsecurity wrote: post #87
127361 wrote: post #61

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The instinct to procreate is obviously very powerful? Also increasing use of birth control in developing countries can improve the situation?

This won't work. You have no instrument on actually limiting child birth and no one ever will have it. While some nations might listen to that advice, others simply won't. Then what?

We already have a method for reducing birth rates that has worked 100% of the time - end extreme poverty, send girls to school and provide basic healthcare.

https://ourworldindata.org/fertility-rate

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by jijijijij »

henriquez wrote: post #78
jijijijij wrote: post #59

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You better start winning naked, cuz I have bad news about those shorts.

I always bike naked. It's only indecent exposure if you're lewd and/or lascivious

We are born naked and the rest is not aero.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by cynicalsecurity »

jdietrich wrote: post #93
cynicalsecurity wrote: post #87

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This won't work. You have no instrument on actually limiting child birth and no one ever will have it. While some nations might listen to that advice, others simply won't. Then what?

We already have a method for reducing birth rates that has worked 100% of the time - end extreme poverty, send girls to school and provide basic healthcare. https://ourworldindata.org/fertility-rate

This method somewhat works. But the person above really thinks asking people politely would achieve anything.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by plutoh28 »

127361 wrote: post #54
jdietrich wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stop burning stuff. Tell other people to stop burning stuff. Tell your representatives to work on alternatives to burning stuff. Don't invest in companies that burn a lot of stuff. Avoid waterfront property.

Encourage other people (especially if you're in a developing country) not to have too many children. The absolutely unsustainable population levels worldwide are behind the climate and pollution crises. We are an incredibly destructive species to the planet. All countries, developing and developed are part of the problem. Not only that the overcrowding and fighting over limited resources causes psychosocial stress, w…

There are 100 things I could put on a list of potential causes for the mental illness epidemic. “Overcrowding and fighting over limited resources” would not be on that list.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by plutoh28 »

jdietrich wrote: post #92
127361 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Encourage other people (especially if you're in a developing country) not to have too many children. The absolutely unsustainable population levels worldwide are behind the climate and pollution crises. We are an incredibly destructive species to the planet. All countries, developing and developed are part of the problem. Not only that the overcrowding and fighting over limited resources causes psychosocial stress, w…

A story in two charts: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/children-per-woman-un https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita

I genuinely do not see the point you’re trying to make. Is it that pollution == lower birth rate? I’d imagine there are many factors besides pollution that may influence why certain regions have more birth rates than others.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by nojvek »

127361 wrote: post #82
10xDev wrote: post #79

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LOL. You wrote a comment on how India is the main problem not the west (either now flagged or deleted). You singled out a race as being the problem.

I didn't single out a specific race, I think, I just mentioned that it was that specific region of the world where the problem was located. As far as I'm aware it was nothing to do with discrimination because of a specific characteristic (which is the definition of racism). It was just that population growth in that region was very large combined with a high per-capita CO2 footprint. Many NGOs are actively trying to…

HN greys out the post if negatively voted. It can still be seen.

I like when HN has varying points of view with supporting links/data.

I’m with you on the population and per capita resource use.

Fact is that India is also slowly leveling out. Africa has a bunch of countries with high growth and that’s where the most humans are being added.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_populat...

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by mikewarot »

cynicalsecurity wrote: post #6

Okay, but what now?

Push as hard as you can for regenerative agriculture, which sequesters Carbon as it improves the fertility and moisture retention of the soil, reduces the need for industrial farming inputs, and produces livestock along the way. If adopted world-wide it could pull about 20% of the CO2 back out of the atmosphere.

Push for right to repair. We've strip mined the resources for your phone and computers, appliances, etc. from the planet, they should be able to stay in service for at least a decade, if not more. Designed obsolescence needs to go.

Sea level went up 200 feet before, there's 100 feet to go. Hopefully it won't happen in the space of a few years, like last time. (The source of the flood myths in every culture)

Reduce, reuse, recycle.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by jdietrich »

plutoh28 wrote: post #97
jdietrich wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A story in two charts: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/children-per-woman-un https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita

I genuinely do not see the point you’re trying to make. Is it that pollution == lower birth rate? I’d imagine there are many factors besides pollution that may influence why certain regions have more birth rates than others.

The places with high birth rates are economically undeveloped, so the people there consume very few resources, produce very little pollution and have negligible impact on the environment. One person in the US produces the same amount of CO2 as 150 people in DR Congo. That disparity is broadly similar for metrics like land use, water use, soil depletion, waste production etc.

The number of people being born in very poor countries is essentially irrelevant compared to the consumption choices of people in rich countries. Based on current trends, the global population is expected to peak at around 10 billion, but the planet is comfortably capable of sustaining billions more if we can find a middle ground in resource use between the dire poverty of DR Congo and the wanton profligacy of the US. Talking about birth rates in relation to climate change is at best a misguided distraction and at worst wilful misdirection.

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