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I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by go_elmo »

dingnuts wrote: post #27
maxglute wrote: post #9

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This sort of anecdote is exhausting. Growing up, I was skeptical of "global warming" and heard endless admonishments about how "weather is not climate" any time anyone around me made a comment about a particularly cold day proving anything about climate. But now, it's acceptable to make this kind of anecdote on an unseasonably warm day.. and on unseasonably cold days! Now you're an idiot if you don't see that weather…

I dont get it. Every scientist & 5yo kid will prove you that things accelerate with 9.81 m/s^2 when falling, and guess this is still science? Which is a proof of cobtradiction that your point doesnt hold.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by pxeboot »

Whoppertime wrote: post #18
randomdata wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But use transport daily. Ironically, at least in the typical North American city, you can’t do anything without a machine to take you over long distances. In the rural area, you maybe travel once a week to stock up but otherwise don’t need transportation at all.

The bicycle machine emits nothing and can be used pretty easily in cities.

> The bicycle machine emits nothing

The tires and some types of brakes still emit micro plastics.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by 127361 »

jdietrich wrote: post #26
cynicalsecurity wrote: post #6

Okay, but what now?

Stop burning stuff. Tell other people to stop burning stuff. Tell your representatives to work on alternatives to burning stuff. Don't invest in companies that burn a lot of stuff. Avoid waterfront property.

Encourage other people (especially if you're in a developing country) not to have too many children. The absolutely unsustainable population levels worldwide are behind the climate and pollution crises. We are an incredibly destructive species to the planet. All countries, developing and developed are part of the problem.

Not only that the overcrowding and fighting over limited resources causes psychosocial stress, which might explain the mental illness epidemic nowadays?

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by lo0dot0 »

randomdata wrote: post #22
Whoppertime wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bicycle machine emits nothing and can be used pretty easily in cities.

Emits nothing only if you ignore the engine. Some studies suggest that human CO2 emissions increase eightfold while exercising.

A car is more or less efficient than cycling, depending on the food, car and source of electrical power, and manufacturing CO2 production. The bicycle production emits a less CO2 than the car production, tilting the comparison at the beginning of the lifecycle of both.

The GHG emissions associated with food intake required to fuel a kilometre of walking range between 0.05 kgCO2e/km in the least economically developed countries to 0.26 kgCO2e/km in the most economically developed countries.

A Tesla model 3 according to WLTP test cycle uses

0.191 kWh / km * 0.434 kgCO2e/kWh = 0.083 kgCO2e / km

Sources

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-66170-y https://www.tesla.com/de_DE/support/european-union-energy-la... https://www.umweltbundesamt.de/themen/co2-emissionen-pro-kil...

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by InSteady »

dingnuts wrote: post #27
maxglute wrote: post #9

[flagged]

This sort of anecdote is exhausting. Growing up, I was skeptical of "global warming" and heard endless admonishments about how "weather is not climate" any time anyone around me made a comment about a particularly cold day proving anything about climate. But now, it's acceptable to make this kind of anecdote on an unseasonably warm day.. and on unseasonably cold days! Now you're an idiot if you don't see that weather…

>Now, I think it's quite possible that the climate crisis is real

Lol, how reasonable of you /s

> it tells me that the people promoting the crisis...

Just listen to scientists in relevant fields and ignore everyone else, silly.

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by 127361 »

dingnuts wrote: post #27
maxglute wrote: post #9

[flagged]

This sort of anecdote is exhausting. Growing up, I was skeptical of "global warming" and heard endless admonishments about how "weather is not climate" any time anyone around me made a comment about a particularly cold day proving anything about climate. But now, it's acceptable to make this kind of anecdote on an unseasonably warm day.. and on unseasonably cold days! Now you're an idiot if you don't see that weather…

The CO2-induced temperature rise might not be as severe as predicted. I suspect a "moral panic" over climate change. There's huge amounts of money, influence and power to be made exaggerating the problem into a catastrophe, there's a bandwagon effect.

I personally think desertification will increase, there will be problems with weather cycles in certain regions. But no end of the world, at least in my opinion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic

Re: I used to not worry about climate change. Now I do [video]

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Post by eastbound »

127361 wrote: post #54
jdietrich wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stop burning stuff. Tell other people to stop burning stuff. Tell your representatives to work on alternatives to burning stuff. Don't invest in companies that burn a lot of stuff. Avoid waterfront property.

Encourage other people (especially if you're in a developing country) not to have too many children. The absolutely unsustainable population levels worldwide are behind the climate and pollution crises. We are an incredibly destructive species to the planet. All countries, developing and developed are part of the problem. Not only that the overcrowding and fighting over limited resources causes psychosocial stress, w…

> Tell other people (especially if you're in a developing country) not to have too many children

That’s my bullshit detector. All of the friends heavily engaged in global fight, to the point of leading a 500-people EU startup on ecology… have finally changed their minds and have children.

My bullshit detector is, so is ecology more important for you than immigration? Because for me, if you use immigration in parallel to ecology, then you’re just nullifying the results, while asking me to take less space, which is just the usual leftist ideology.

Turns out, after interviewing dozens, that none of the ecologists, really care about ecology. None of them are sincere. None of them are honest when presented figures. None of them are upfront about their desires and projects.

It’s just that they want less of people like me. Has always been.

None of the scientific evidence I have studied has withheld the “what if we didn’t do it the leftist way” test.

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