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Re: Windows 11 Design Mistakes

#21

Post by diffeomorphism »

kibibu wrote: post #15
number6 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft has lost whatever initial magic helped them make a good OS, it's all corporatism now. I never heard anyone that described Windows as a good OS. It was always a Platform for Microsoft Office or Games. MacOS was always the good OS.

Not true, all the mac operating systems before OSX were flaming bags of dog shit. Win 2000 was significantly better than any of them

> Not true 20 years ago.

Okay, but not really relevant?

I know quite a few people that genuinely like MacOS or desktop linux. Yet, for Windows 11 at best I hear "it runs my software and is mostly okay (except for the ads, shitty updates,..)" or "I don't like macs".

Re: Windows 11 Design Mistakes

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Post by kibibu »

diffeomorphism wrote: post #21
kibibu wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not true, all the mac operating systems before OSX were flaming bags of dog shit. Win 2000 was significantly better than any of them

> Not true 20 years ago. Okay, but not really relevant? I know quite a few people that genuinely like MacOS or desktop linux. Yet, for Windows 11 at best I hear "it runs my software and is mostly okay (except for the ads, shitty updates,..)" or "I don't like macs".

I suggest you read the comment I was replying to

Re: Windows 11 Design Mistakes

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Post by jocoda »

Snap windows - I hate it when someone decides that the computer knows better than I do, what I want to do with desktop layout. I don't recall this problem in W10, so it must have been retro fitted.

Good luck trying to figure out what's going on when it's disabled but still rearranging things.

Re: Windows 11 Design Mistakes

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Post by majewsky »

LispSporks22 wrote: post #9

I bought an expensive PC just to play my stupid my 3D Steam games. Windows 11 is barely even fit for that now. Even installing it wants my email. Why?? Can’t get a vertical task bar like I used to (have they even seen monitor screen dimensions since 2000?) Then that dude from Microsoft comes out on HN and says they don’t even care to improve it/can’t improve it because of project manager career aspirations. Makes tot…

> I bought an expensive PC just to play my stupid my 3D Steam games.

Depending on which games those are, you might able to get by on Linux just fine if you have them on Steam. I'm gaming on Linux multiple times a week and it's been a few years since the last major compatibility problem with the stuff I play. Maybe check out the compatibility database: https://protondb.com - If the stuff you want is all Gold and Platinum (like for me), you should be good.

Re: Windows 11 Design Mistakes

#25

Post by ThePowerOfFuet »

number6 wrote: post #12
Sabinus wrote: post #7

Last time I installed Windows 11, I found that I could not skip the 'use a Microsoft account as your local account' that Microsoft really encourages. In anger I spammed the back and forward button ~5 times. Suddenly, the option to setup Windows 11 with a local account appeared. Microsoft has lost whatever initial magic helped them make a good OS, it's all corporatism now.

> Microsoft has lost whatever initial magic helped them make a good OS, it's all corporatism now. I never heard anyone that described Windows as a good OS. It was always a Platform for Microsoft Office or Games. MacOS was always the good OS.

> MacOS was always the good OS.

Emphasis, unfortunately, on _was_. From 2019 (and I have seen no improvement since, au contraire):

https://tidbits.com/2019/10/21/six-reasons-why-ios-13-and-ca...

Re: Windows 11 Design Mistakes

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Post by markisus »

I also feel like the start menu now is totally busted. In older versions of Windows I could find applications I installed via the start menu. Now it’s seemingly random whether it wants to find my application or whether it shows me an internet article about the application.

Re: Windows 11 Design Mistakes

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Post by lacrimacida »

MichaelMug wrote: post #17

This article is a bit overblown. I was initially looking forward to a juicy article about the UI inconsistencies...probably should be flagged. Context: I manage Windows 11 laptops for my family...5 machines. Windows 11 has its issues but this is not it. Create a Microsoft Account, a dummy one, and use the store to disable S-mode. Remove the MS Account and done. It would of been a lot easier and take less time than wr…

> Your real mistake is not installing Windows 11 Pro. Which you can get for $24 from stacksocial. [1] With PowerShell and Group Policy Editor you can clean up a lot of the stuff quickly.

Why bother installing a crappy/inferior OS in the first place? I personallt like nothing about W11

Re: Windows 11 Design Mistakes

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Post by BSDobelix »

number6 wrote: post #12
Sabinus wrote: post #7

Last time I installed Windows 11, I found that I could not skip the 'use a Microsoft account as your local account' that Microsoft really encourages. In anger I spammed the back and forward button ~5 times. Suddenly, the option to setup Windows 11 with a local account appeared. Microsoft has lost whatever initial magic helped them make a good OS, it's all corporatism now.

> Microsoft has lost whatever initial magic helped them make a good OS, it's all corporatism now. I never heard anyone that described Windows as a good OS. It was always a Platform for Microsoft Office or Games. MacOS was always the good OS.

>MacOS was always the good OS.

Classic MacOS was terrible, no protected memory no access controls and no virtual memory until 7. Windows NT already had that. A good "personal" system at that time was NeXTSTEP. And for workstation let's not forget OpenVMS and all the other Unix's like Irix, Solaris etc.

Re: Windows 11 Design Mistakes

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Post by [deleted] »

LispSporks22 wrote: post #9

I bought an expensive PC just to play my stupid my 3D Steam games. Windows 11 is barely even fit for that now. Even installing it wants my email. Why?? Can’t get a vertical task bar like I used to (have they even seen monitor screen dimensions since 2000?) Then that dude from Microsoft comes out on HN and says they don’t even care to improve it/can’t improve it because of project manager career aspirations. Makes tot…

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Re: Windows 11 Design Mistakes

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Post by BSDobelix »

ikari_pl wrote: post #5
rstat1 wrote: post #4

There are so many stupid decisions that were made with Windows 11 that it's probably good that most people can't use it without creating tons of ewaste replacing perfectly functional HW.

I'm still amused that my CPU is new enough to have 16 physical and 32 virtual codes, but too old for W11

Just make the install medium with https://rufus.ie/en/
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