let's start by turning the water and electricity back on
Water and electricity were both resumed in oct. 15th.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/amid-concern-for-humanitarian-...
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let's start by turning the water and electricity back on
Water and electricity were both resumed in oct. 15th.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/amid-concern-for-humanitarian-...
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Water and electricity were both resumed in oct. 15th.
Here is an Israel Times article from the 28th that seems to prove that to be untrue for electricity (but true for water although severely reduced). Could you source that statement? https://www.timesofisrael.com/amid-concern-for-humanitarian-...
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Regarding the people that died on October 7, one important detail is evidence surfaced it appears a sizeable fraction was killed due to Israeli military attacking militants and hostages without distinction, to avoid capture, following the so called Hannibal directive: https://thecradle.co/articles/israeli-army-ordered-mass-hann... https://thegrayzone.com/2023/11/25/israels-october-7-propaga... https://en.m.wikipedia.…
Why is this flagged/down voted? Its just a plain statement of fact, supported by credible sources and references. Here's some more references if people think this didn't happen. The IDF attacked and fired on the Nova festival goers with Apache helicopters [1], an Israeli tank fired shells at Kibbutz Be'eri killing hostages and children, and stories of eight babies killed at the kibbutz have been proven to be false, a…
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If they cared about the hostages, they wouldn't be bombing them to death on a daily basis, shooting those that escape, or gassing them in tunnels. The hostages are nothing more than political pawns to Netanyahu. Keep in mind that Hamas reiterated their ceasefire deal recently, which includes the release of all hostages, and Israel rejected it.
It also included the release of the thousands of terrorists that were captured in Israeli borders in oct 7th. People with actual blood on their hands, and a guarantee for hamas to stay in power. Moreover, Israel offered hamas a ceasefire if they release all the hostages and exile their top 6 leaders. That offer was rejected by hamas. So please don’t present such a one sided view
That wasn't a serious ceasefire offer, and you've left out the reasons why: it was a pause of 2 months, not a ceasefire offer at all! Furthermore, Israel wouldn't release the hostages they are holding. Why would anyone agree to release the hostages in exchange for nothing but a brief pause of genocide?
Netanyahu knew Hamas wouldn't agree to it; he only even made the offer because he'd turned down the Hamas offer first, and so needed a different story for the media to run with. Which worked just fine of course - MSM ran with "Hamas reject ceasefire" without even mentioning the Hamas offer.
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Since the comment that I replied to was flagged, I'm posting this here because it is simply a statement of facts. - Judge Barak's numbers on civilian deaths on 7th october are simply wrong and could've been easily checked. 766 civilians were killed, 1200 was the total number of deaths (including armed forces). - Israel's own numbers say "2 civilians killed for every one militant"[1], that's 66% in the Gaza offensive.…
Regarding the people that died on October 7, one important detail is evidence surfaced it appears a sizeable fraction was killed due to Israeli military attacking militants and hostages without distinction, to avoid capture, following the so called Hannibal directive: https://thecradle.co/articles/israeli-army-ordered-mass-hann... https://thegrayzone.com/2023/11/25/israels-october-7-propaga... https://en.m.wikipedia.…
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Regarding the people that died on October 7, one important detail is evidence surfaced it appears a sizeable fraction was killed due to Israeli military attacking militants and hostages without distinction, to avoid capture, following the so called Hannibal directive: https://thecradle.co/articles/israeli-army-ordered-mass-hann... https://thegrayzone.com/2023/11/25/israels-october-7-propaga... https://en.m.wikipedia.…
As far as has been credibly reported, it wasn't a "sizeable fraction", it was a very small number. There's only one incident I know of that is verified. I'm sure more will surface - such is war. Therefore I want to make it very clear - it is not an important detail , despite you calling it such. Hamas are the ones that attacked - if in the process of trying to stop these attacks, the IDF inadvertantly killed Israeli…
Hi All, I am a combat soldier and commander in the IDF currently fighting in Gaza. We are not committing any genocide. The give away for Genocide is that there are mass graves, which in Gaza there are not. Yes there is collateral damage because Hamas uses civilians as human shields, so we have no choice but to kill them too, but we do not specifically target them. We risk ourselves and our soldiers to ensure that the…
According to Omer Bartov, scholar of genocide, the criterion for genocide is that there is intent to commit genocide:
The crime of genocide was defined in 1948 by the United Nations as “the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/10/opinion/israel-gaza-genoc...
There are numerous articles in the press reporting on mass graves of Palestinians killed in the war, in Gaza. For example:
Palestinians digging mass graves inside al-Shifa hospital, health official says (14 November 2023, Al Shifa hospital)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/14/people-flee-no...
Bodies are being buried in a mass grave at Gaza City’s largest hospital, health officials say. (14 November, Al Shifa)
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/11/14/world/israel-hamas-g...
More than 100 Palestinian bodies buried in mass grave in Gaza (22 November, Khan Younis)
https://news.sky.com/video/more-than-100-palestinian-bodies-...
"All the cemetaries are full': Palestinians buried in a mass grave in Gaza (23 November, Khan YOunis)
https://www.reuters.com/pictures/all-cemeteries-are-full-pal...
Israel Gaza: Drone shots show Palestinians buried in Rafah mass grave (26 December, Rafah)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-middle-east-67825385
etc etc.
Those who want to know the proper history and context of the current conflict, you really owe it to yourself to read this well researched book by Prof Rashid Khalidi, The Hundred Years' War on Palestine [1]. In his latest book he even mentioned Israel - Palestinian latest major war (fifth war in chronological order) in the form of many years of blockade on the people of Gaza. The fact that this book was published sev…
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Being kind to them is completely wasted effort.
Replying to them is also wasted effort as they won't be persuaded.
However leaving bullshit unchallenged might make trusting bystanders believe that this is actually the truth.
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> When you occupy someone's land, there can never be peace until they get their land back or are fully exterminated or controlled militarily. I can certainly think of some other ethnicity in that region who had their land occupied and was cleansed from the region. They even somehow managed to survive an attempt to fully exterminate them! Surely there will be peace once they get all of their land back :)
> I can certainly think of some other ethnicity in that region who had their land occupied and was cleansed from the region. And I can certainly think of some other ethnicity in that region who that ethnicity cleansed from the region according to their own holy book. :) Deuteronomy 20:16-17 (God telling Joshua, leader of the Israelites, to go to war) > 16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giv…
Slightly more seriously (Though only very slightly more seriously :)), IIRC our current understanding of history is that the jews are Canaanites. Quoting from Wikipedia "Ancestors of the Israelites are thought to have included ancient Semitic-speaking peoples native to this area.[59]: 78–79 Modern archaeological accounts suggest that the Israelites and their culture branched out of the Canaanite peoples through the development of a distinct monolatristic—and later monotheistic—religion centered on Yahweh.", so at the very least one of those peoples survived until today :)