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Yes, and we won't let HN turn into a current affairs site, but this site has always had a certain amount of political content, and that's why this particular thread is happening. For more information, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39146184 and the links there.
Is there a reason why Oct 7th (the massacre that started this escalation) was not discussed? https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1696896000&dateRange=custom&...
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Honestly I'm not trying to mis-read the verdict which is why I asked the question. I think all of Israel's strategies to date include the death of Palestinians. Since that's explicitly forbidden with that ruling, how will they continue to fight? Will they just ignore the ruling or change tactics?
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I usually refrain from making much political commentary. I will say this: SA is a deeply troubled country, but for once I think the ruling government has actually done a good thing by pursuing this.
Or they’re just trying to gain brownie points from the people who support Hamas.
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Is there a reason why Oct 7th (the massacre that started this escalation) was not discussed? https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1696896000&dateRange=custom&...
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While I don't agree with your recount of history, it's off-topic to my question to @dang
In fact, the presence and tone of comments like yours vs the lacking and flagging of pro-Israel gets exactly to the root of my question.
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The US, under whichever administration, is in a very difficult position here. If the US stops all support immediately, this could be the end of Israel. Would that be just? I see a president carefully dancing on the thin line of supporting the Israel state while using the US leverage to stop the war (latest example: sending the CIA chief to the negotiating table). But this needs to be done without enabling Israel's bi…
> If the US stops all support immediately, this could be the end of Israel. How would Israel disappear? Palestine is clearly no match for them - who else is expected to suddenly move in? I certainly think we could stop funding their military while still pledging to support them if someone actually tries to invade. Keep in mind, Israel has it's own defense budget - it's not like it's military just disappears when US f…
A US official stated that at the rate Israel is bombing Gaza, Israel would have run out of munitions in 3 days without US aid. An Israeli official said the same, but he said their arsenal would only have lasted one day. Even if either/both were engaging in a degree of hyperbole, the gist is, that the bombing continues at the will of the Biden administration.
Yes, Israel would not cease to exist if the US withdrew support for genocidal murder and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, but it would halt this most recent massacre of Palestinians by Israelis.
And, if the US stopped running cover for Israel in the UN Security Council, Israel would find it untenable to continue its belligerent disregard of international humanitarian law and past UN resolutions-- it might actually become the democratic state it claims to be, but to do so it will necessarily no longer be an ethno-religious state.
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That's exactly the point, at least how I'm reading it. Between the US and Japan peace and diplomacy was allowed to rule instead of constant violent retaliation. With France and Germany the same - the two countries have, in a pretty meaningful way, simply merged into a single country along with a lot of the rest of Europe. When it comes to the US Government and Native Americans it's a far less good example - there hav…
> That's exactly the point, at least how I'm reading it. Between the US and Japan peace and diplomacy was allowed to rule instead of constant violent retaliation. What diplomacy? The US destroyed Japan's military, bombed Tokyo, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki (the latter two with nuclear weapons), killing hundreds of thousands of civilians. The Japanese surrendered unconditionally. Then the US occupied Japan while directing…
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It's under-remarked on, but for a majority of Israeli Jewish people, the nakba era might have more immediate salience than the Holocaust. That's because they're not, as the popular imagination has it, all colonists from Europe; they're the Jewish people of the Middle East and North Africa, all of whom were forcefully expelled from their own homes after 1948. There's no question that the Holocaust has enormous salienc…
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How does something occurring in Palestine justify this? Tying the actions of Jewish militias to your local Jewish population is antisemitic… if they expelled them to protest the creation of Israel, then that isn’t anti-Zionist. That they mostly all ended up going to Israel is ironically supporting the Zionist cause
I wish politics articles wouldn't make it to the top page of Hacker News. There's already enough political discussion in a million other places.
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It's common for people with strong feelings on a topic to leap to the conclusion that the mods are biased against their side and secretly supporting the opposite. This happens from every perspective on every divisive topic.
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
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People don't have to hide being anti-Israel. It's fine. You can be anti-Uganda, anti-France. Be anti-whatever country you like.
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> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, [...]. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.