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Re: iPad users will miss out on third-party app stores, browser engines, and more

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Post by kristjansson »

rezonant wrote: post #2

> iPadOS on the iPad is a completely different platform in the eyes of Apple and the European Commission. Is this correct, or is Apple making the distinction here?

Given the literal billions of dollars at stake, presumably this has been viscously litigated already, and this is where the EC and Apple have landed

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Post by lapcat »

dmart wrote: post #3

Suddenly it makes a lot more sense why Apple made a big deal about iPadOS being its own separate OS, even though the differences are so minimal.

I'm as cynical as anyone, but iPadOS was introduced at WWDC 2019 and thus was in the works for some time before then. This conspiracy theory doesn't stand up to the historical timeline.

The more plausible and less conspiratorial theory is that iPadOS was made separate to help market more expensive iPad Pro devices.

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Post by IMcD23 »

Vicinity9635 wrote: post #9
Someone1234 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It must be at least a little different since it is unable to run Calculator.

FYI: If you swipe down you can just type mathematical expressions like finder on OSX. It may be finder, but I don't know.

That's Spotlight, not Finder.

Re: iPad users will miss out on third-party app stores, browser engines, and more

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Post by lolinder »

lapcat wrote: post #14
dmart wrote: post #3

Suddenly it makes a lot more sense why Apple made a big deal about iPadOS being its own separate OS, even though the differences are so minimal.

I'm as cynical as anyone, but iPadOS was introduced at WWDC 2019 and thus was in the works for some time before then. This conspiracy theory doesn't stand up to the historical timeline. The more plausible and less conspiratorial theory is that iPadOS was made separate to help market more expensive iPad Pro devices.

Government bodies also move slowly, and they usually telegraph their moves years in advance. When corporations act like they're caught off guard by a new regulation it's usually (though not always) just a PR move.

It's not improbable that Apple could have predicted that separating the ecosystems would be legally beneficial, even if they didn't know about this specific regulation back then.

Re: iPad users will miss out on third-party app stores, browser engines, and more

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Post by ChrisLTD »

kristjansson wrote: post #13
rezonant wrote: post #2

> iPadOS on the iPad is a completely different platform in the eyes of Apple and the European Commission. Is this correct, or is Apple making the distinction here?

Given the literal billions of dollars at stake, presumably this has been viscously litigated already, and this is where the EC and Apple have landed

If it had been litigated, there would be stories about the court cases, no?

Re: iPad users will miss out on third-party app stores, browser engines, and more

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Post by lapcat »

lolinder wrote: post #17
lapcat wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm as cynical as anyone, but iPadOS was introduced at WWDC 2019 and thus was in the works for some time before then. This conspiracy theory doesn't stand up to the historical timeline. The more plausible and less conspiratorial theory is that iPadOS was made separate to help market more expensive iPad Pro devices.

Government bodies also move slowly, and they usually telegraph their moves years in advance. When corporations act like they're caught off guard by a new regulation it's usually (though not always) just a PR move. It's not improbable that Apple could have predicted that separating the ecosystems would be legally beneficial, even if they didn't know about this specific regulation back then.

> Government bodies also move slowly, and they usually telegraph their moves years in advance.

There's no evidence of that in the pre-2019 period. See https://fasos-research.nl/vista-jmn/files/2022/10/VISTA-Poli... "For much of the 2014-2019 period, European Commission leaders, most notably those linked to DG Competition, articulated a commitment to the use of traditional competition instruments to meet the needs of the new digital economy."

> It's not improbable that Apple could have predicted that separating the ecosystems would be legally beneficial

I disagree. It's improbable. Show me any evidence that anyone in the world was talking about splitting out iPadOS for legal reasons.

In any case, it's really more of a minor annoyance than anything, relatively speaking, because iPhone has a vastly larger user base than iPad. iPhone is Apple's bread and butter, and iPhone is what the DMA is regulating. Apple wasn't able to spare the iPhone by separating iPadOS.

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