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Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by timothyduong »

green-eclipse wrote: post #75
seatac76 wrote: post #44

It was stuff like this that made me switch to iPhone. The notable ones were the December bug and them breaking SMS. What sort of testing they use is beyond me.

iPhones have plenty of issues too, I've experienced my fair share, as have others. Technology always has bugs: https://discussions.apple.com/community/iphone

I did a little anecdotal Search using reddit, added “bricked” to iosBetas and Android and found android had more recent results.

There’s issues with software which affect a function then there’s issues that ruin the whole phone…

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by jacquesm »

tmsbrg wrote: post #130
jacquesm wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what you're getting at, that's clearly spelled out already. But in case you didn't get it: that's without liability for the manufacturer because you have the choice to bypass them. Presumably such a situation wouldn't occur very often because 'proprietary hardware' with 'open source software' wouldn't be proprietary for very long. The software would tell you all you need to know about how it works.

Have you heard about Android?

Yes, if you have a point to make you should spell it out. Google manufactures phones, has an open source OS and has a bunch of proprietary stuff that they do not release, see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)

"However, most devices run on the proprietary Android version developed by Google, which ships with additional proprietary closed-source software pre-installed, most notably Google Mobile Services (GMS) which includes core apps such as Google Chrome, the digital distribution platform Google Play, and the associated Google Play Services development platform. Firebase Cloud Messaging is used for push notifications. "

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by windowsrookie »

alemanek wrote: post #124
rconti wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure someone will point out breaking iPhone updates that have happened in the past, but I've never been hit by one. Bad things happen, I think Apple is just REALLY aggressive about pulling updates that break things to limit the impact. That's the most important thing, IMO. Well, that and a fix for the people who got screwed.

Not IOS but MacOS Sonoma made my 2019 Intel MacBook Pro close to unusable. Constant kernel panics, usb ports not consistently recognizing devices, charging not working when powered on, wouldn’t recognize displays over HDMI. I had to roll back to Ventura and everything is fixed now. I am hoping to get another year or so before my next upgrade.

My 2018 15” MacBook Pro runs Sonoma without any issues. Only thing I notice is wake from sleep on battery seems to be a little slow. But maybe it just feels that way because of my M1 air.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by pipes »

channel_t wrote: post #125
newprint wrote: post #26

Pixel owner here. Lately my phone been very slow or acting out. That explains it. Last year or few years ago, Google released update that broke Bluetooth on Pixels. Google's team released the update, broke things, went out for extended Christmas break and fixed things a few months later. I'm not fan of the Apple phones and the fact that they cost a fortune, but I don't recall them putting out hardware breaking update…

While I can't say that I have noticed anything out of the ordinary yet on my Pixel 7, I will say that I have been a diehard Google phone user since the Nexus 4 days and have been really disappointed with how things have turned out with the more recent iterations of Google phones. Terrible battery life, bugs, poor quality fingerprint readers, questionable design decisions in general. The phones used to be a fairly rea…

Glad it's not justenon the finger print thing. I had to turn it off on my 6a. Utterly infuriating trying to open phone

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by ijhuygft776 »

channel_t wrote: post #125
newprint wrote: post #26

Pixel owner here. Lately my phone been very slow or acting out. That explains it. Last year or few years ago, Google released update that broke Bluetooth on Pixels. Google's team released the update, broke things, went out for extended Christmas break and fixed things a few months later. I'm not fan of the Apple phones and the fact that they cost a fortune, but I don't recall them putting out hardware breaking update…

While I can't say that I have noticed anything out of the ordinary yet on my Pixel 7, I will say that I have been a diehard Google phone user since the Nexus 4 days and have been really disappointed with how things have turned out with the more recent iterations of Google phones. Terrible battery life, bugs, poor quality fingerprint readers, questionable design decisions in general. The phones used to be a fairly rea…

Not really a Google fan, but the fingerprint reader on my Pixel 7a is much better then it was on my Pixel 5, when it works.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by nucleardog »

jacquesm wrote: post #52
bitwize wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear a small company called Apple is making a viable alternative.

Apple is by no means perfect when it comes to updating devices. https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+ota+update+breaks+phon... There isn't a single manufacturer that consistently gets this right, only different shades of gray.

Yes, but in terms of:

> I am getting too old to have time to fiddle with this stuff and just want something that works.

I definitely find the iPhone great.

It _generally_ just works. If shit does break there's no fiddling... it's just broken. If it doesn't work the way you want there's no fiddling... suck it up or get a new phone.

I was going to say it's like an appliance and compare it to my toaster, but I would 100% end up at my kitchen table angrily disassembling my toaster if it failed to make me breakfast one morning.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by mataug »

As much as I don't like apple's walled garden, reliability and consistency are exteremly valuable for users like my mom who's currently a pixel user.

I hate being worried about her calling from a neighbor's phone one day because her phone is unusable. I'm aware that this issue doesn't affect all pixels, but an issue like this affecting even 1% of devices is not okay.

I'm holding on to hope that google hasn't agressively pushed out this update, and my mom's phone won't auto update until this is resolved.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by jacquesm »

nucleardog wrote: post #136
jacquesm wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is by no means perfect when it comes to updating devices. https://www.google.com/search?q=apple+ota+update+breaks+phon... There isn't a single manufacturer that consistently gets this right, only different shades of gray.

Yes, but in terms of: > I am getting too old to have time to fiddle with this stuff and just want something that works. I definitely find the iPhone great. It _generally_ just works. If shit does break there's no fiddling... it's just broken. If it doesn't work the way you want there's no fiddling... suck it up or get a new phone. I was going to say it's like an appliance and compare it to my toaster, but I would 100…

I'm still on an older Nokia, it is 'just something that works'. It's limited enough that it isn't an distraction and it works very well as a phone.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #103
Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This isn't true Are you misinterpreting the previous comment? They didn't say you HAVE to cut corners to make billions, only that you CAN. EDIT: Oops, I missed the "only" in the other comment"

"You can only X if Y" means "In order to X, Y" also "You have to Y in order to X".

Shit, I missed the "only" in the comment.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by GeekyBear »

dvnguyen wrote: post #122
newprint wrote: post #26

Pixel owner here. Lately my phone been very slow or acting out. That explains it. Last year or few years ago, Google released update that broke Bluetooth on Pixels. Google's team released the update, broke things, went out for extended Christmas break and fixed things a few months later. I'm not fan of the Apple phones and the fact that they cost a fortune, but I don't recall them putting out hardware breaking update…

I don't see myself switching to an Android phone but iPhone updates do break things. Since upgrading to latest iOS, both my phone (personal and work) keyboards are unusable if I enable both English and Vietnamese keyboards. Looks like there's a bug in their keyboard prediction engine. It's been 4 months and I don't see they fix it yet.

Nobody's perfect, but I can't remember Apple ever shipping updates that brick their phones in two consecutive quarters.

At least Apple releases the images you need to restore your phone to a bootable state if something goes wrong during an update.

See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39145490

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