Pixel owner here. Lately my phone been very slow or acting out. That explains it. Last year or few years ago, Google released update that broke Bluetooth on Pixels. Google's team released the update, broke things, went out for extended Christmas break and fixed things a few months later. I'm not fan of the Apple phones and the fact that they cost a fortune, but I don't recall them putting out hardware breaking update…
Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update
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#122Pixel owner here. Lately my phone been very slow or acting out. That explains it. Last year or few years ago, Google released update that broke Bluetooth on Pixels. Google's team released the update, broke things, went out for extended Christmas break and fixed things a few months later. I'm not fan of the Apple phones and the fact that they cost a fortune, but I don't recall them putting out hardware breaking update…
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> It's incredible to me that there is no bullet proof recovery mode for this, even something as dumb as an Arduino can recover from almost every form of abuse. There's a bullet proof recovery mode, check my comment below ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39145490 ) where I detail the steps and provide links. The EDL firehose mode is just the phone showing up on a very unique USB-ID and waiting to be spoon fed th…
That's way beyond most ordinary users though.
To take a broken phone to the mall where there're a small store that's known to fix phones?
Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update
#124Pixel owner here. Lately my phone been very slow or acting out. That explains it. Last year or few years ago, Google released update that broke Bluetooth on Pixels. Google's team released the update, broke things, went out for extended Christmas break and fixed things a few months later. I'm not fan of the Apple phones and the fact that they cost a fortune, but I don't recall them putting out hardware breaking update…
I'm sure someone will point out breaking iPhone updates that have happened in the past, but I've never been hit by one. Bad things happen, I think Apple is just REALLY aggressive about pulling updates that break things to limit the impact. That's the most important thing, IMO. Well, that and a fix for the people who got screwed.
I had to roll back to Ventura and everything is fixed now. I am hoping to get another year or so before my next upgrade.
Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update
#125Pixel owner here. Lately my phone been very slow or acting out. That explains it. Last year or few years ago, Google released update that broke Bluetooth on Pixels. Google's team released the update, broke things, went out for extended Christmas break and fixed things a few months later. I'm not fan of the Apple phones and the fact that they cost a fortune, but I don't recall them putting out hardware breaking update…
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That's way beyond most ordinary users though.
> That's way beyond most ordinary users though. To take a broken phone to the mall where there're a small store that's known to fix phones?
Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's incredible to me that there is no bullet proof recovery mode for this, even something as dumb as an Arduino can recover from almost every form of abuse. There's a bullet proof recovery mode, check my comment below ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39145490 ) where I detail the steps and provide links. The EDL firehose mode is just the phone showing up on a very unique USB-ID and waiting to be spoon fed th…
You forgot 3) It requires money to fix the problem, and Google has become such a bureaucratic mess, that it can't get out its own way to do it. Those of us in large corporations see that pattern quite often.
It's sad there's such a dilution of responsibility such problems are allowed to persist, and that nobody cares they are killing random people phones.
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The funny part is that internally they get the update way earlier than anyone outside, so it should already be spotted. https://9to5google.com/2017/04/18/google-pixel-xl-ota-dogfoo...
Dogfooding there was historically kind of a joke. I had severe issues with my Nexus hardware as a Googler and none of them ever got fixed. When they offered to give us all free Nexus phones as a Christmas gift one year I refused because I wasn't about to subject myself to another one. I'd wager money that dogfooders caught this issue and reported it, and nothing was done because it either fell through the cracks or w…
Let's look at it from a different perspective. Google is unable to properly launch a phone worldwide and the decisions are incomprehensible to a thinking human. They support Pixel 8 in Ireland (5 million population), Norway (5.4 million), Denmark (5.9) but they don't in Poland (38 million, part of European Union for 20 years) where they bought one of the largest offices for over $600 million USD to support 2,500 employees. Poles consider Pixel's price a fair price, not an expensive one. Not to mention lack of Pixel presence in at least some Asian countries with at least several hundred millions of potential customers.
As for the technicalities, they even did not enter all radio frequencies and countries in their version of Android, so that 5G or some Wi-Fi bands don't work in some countries. When you roam from supported country to an unsupported one, you may loose part or all connectivity. They did the same in Chromecast. Multiple layoffs confirm it's all about money at Google, so why they don't reach for an easy money from smartphone market? Lack of vision, lack of knowledge, name it however you want.
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So obviously open source software for proprietary hardware is treated as, er, ..?
I don't know what you're getting at, that's clearly spelled out already. But in case you didn't get it: that's without liability for the manufacturer because you have the choice to bypass them. Presumably such a situation wouldn't occur very often because 'proprietary hardware' with 'open source software' wouldn't be proprietary for very long. The software would tell you all you need to know about how it works.