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Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by MyNameIs_Hacker »

csdvrx wrote: post #95
jacquesm wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice sleuthing! It's incredible to me that there is no bullet proof recovery mode for this, even something as dumb as an Arduino can recover from almost every form of abuse.

> It's incredible to me that there is no bullet proof recovery mode for this, even something as dumb as an Arduino can recover from almost every form of abuse. There's a bullet proof recovery mode, check my comment below ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39145490 ) where I detail the steps and provide links. The EDL firehose mode is just the phone showing up on a very unique USB-ID and waiting to be spoon fed th…

You forgot 3) It requires money to fix the problem, and Google has become such a bureaucratic mess, that it can't get out its own way to do it.

Those of us in large corporations see that pattern quite often.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by bradleyishungry »

iopq wrote: post #74
cantours wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can only acquire billions of dollars if you cut corners and cheat as much as possible.

This isn't true, there are a ton of companies that make lots of money while not being pieces of shit AMD is pretty good at having open source drivers, supporting Linux and Wayland, working with Framework to make an upgradable GPU in laptops.

amd also was sued and settled for price fixing with nvidia in 2008

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by tadeegan »

dralley wrote: post #100

I've lost so much respect for Google over the past few years. I keep having problems with the Youtube app locking up on my Pixel 4a, requiring me to force-stop the app via applications settings before it will work again. And after doing some travel with my phone, I have a difficult time believing that the Android PMs do much traveling with theirs. So many little issues that my wife didn't have with her iPhone.

The android pm probably wear Patagonia and use iPhones. Honestly

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by lolinder »

jacquesm wrote: post #71
lacoolj wrote: post #51

Title is super misleading. I have 3 different pixels, all different versions (4, 5a, 7a) and none of them are "unusable" after the update. I'm sure others are having issues, but this isn't something that's bricking everyone's phones.

With three phones and a one-in-eight chance of being unaffected (assuming 50% for each phone) that still leaves a very large number of phones out there that are potentially affected. 100's of millions of devices. The article is pretty clear that it doesn't seem to affect every phone, but that there are numerous complaints. I'm always imagining 'Some' in front of headlines like these unless it says 'All'.

> a one-in-eight chance of being unaffected (assuming 50% for each phone)

Where are you getting 50/50 odds of being affected? Is that cited somewhere, or just a random possible percentage?

(I own one unaffected Pixel.)

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

fletchowns wrote: post #91

I installed the update on my Pixel 7 but I haven't experienced the issues described in the article. However, I am back to having to re-pair my Garmin Venu 2 Plus watch every day after some Pixel update a few months ago. It was broken in early 2023, then they fixed it, then broke it again :( https://www.reddit.com/r/GarminWatches/comments/12hpk0c/venu... I can't help but think they do it deliberately, in order to driv…

Ah, so. I'm not the only one.

In my case I actually can't properly pair the device at all. I hadn't used my watch (Fenix 6 X) in many months, and last time I used it was with another phone.

I went to pair with my Pixel on Android 14 and the actual bluetooth pairing works fine -- shows up in the list of Bluetooth devices -- but the Garmin app refuses to add it, thinks it can't talk to it.

So the phone / watch connection can never happen.

I suspect Google has made changes to bluetooth stack yet again and the Garmin stuff simply isn't working with it. (TBH their apps seem pretty janky)

After this I might just go back to an iPhone.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by radicaldreamer »

jacek wrote: post #3

That's not the first story like this. It seems like more and more often the QA is done by users who have not signed up for it. Why can't a multibillion company do a proper QA?

Staffing proper QA teams went out of vogue a couple of years ago.

Turns out that the way incentives are set up at most tech companies today, nobody gets dinged for shipping major software regressions/bugs while everyone is patted on the back for shipping even completely broken features on time.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by jacquesm »

lolinder wrote: post #115
jacquesm wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With three phones and a one-in-eight chance of being unaffected (assuming 50% for each phone) that still leaves a very large number of phones out there that are potentially affected. 100's of millions of devices. The article is pretty clear that it doesn't seem to affect every phone, but that there are numerous complaints. I'm always imagining 'Some' in front of headlines like these unless it says 'All'.

> a one-in-eight chance of being unaffected (assuming 50% for each phone) Where are you getting 50/50 odds of being affected? Is that cited somewhere, or just a random possible percentage? (I own one unaffected Pixel.)

Out of thin air...

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by jacquesm »

ajross wrote: post #110
jacquesm wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With three phones and a one-in-eight chance of being unaffected (assuming 50% for each phone) that still leaves a very large number of phones out there that are potentially affected. 100's of millions of devices. The article is pretty clear that it doesn't seem to affect every phone, but that there are numerous complaints. I'm always imagining 'Some' in front of headlines like these unless it says 'All'.

> With three phones and a one-in-eight chance of being unaffected (assuming 50% for each phone) that still leaves a very large number of phones out there that are potentially affected. Sure, but isn't it the primary job of journalists writing about subjects like this to figure that stuff out before publishing? This is a headline that clearly implies "all" phones. Now we're in a subthread where it seems like the fract…

No, I wouldn't have published that headline, I would have put 'Some' in front of it, because that's the part that I could be reasonably sure of.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Post by radicaldreamer »

1905 wrote: post #13

Imagine when this starts happening to cars

Rivian, Tesla, Ford (Mustang EVs) all have had bad OTA software shipped to them. The problem will continue to get worse as cars become mostly software defined.
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